Canada to firmly re-assess its status as a British colony

[garbon]

Until then we felt left out for not being invited the revolutionary fun a few decades before

You probably felt no different than you felt when being Virginian colonists, South Carolian colonists or Massachussets colonists.

Damn HVC how many colonies were you a part of?

[HVC]

Until then we felt left out for not being invited the revolutionary fun a few decades before

You probably felt no different than you felt when being Virginian colonists, South Carolian colonists or Massachussets colonists.

Damn HVC how many colonies were you a part of?

my ancestors were sluts who travelled a lot

[viper37]

my ancestors were sluts who travelled a lot

silly english language and no differenciation of the pronouns...

[viper37]

That's teh thing. She's not the british queen. She's our queen.

She is the British Queen, who happens to be the Queen of Canada by right of Conquest and
ethnic cleansing of the previous inhabitants.  Hereditary title, of course.  Doesn't change the historical facts.

[Neil]

That's teh thing. She's not the british queen. She's our queen.

She is the British Queen, who happens to be the Queen of Canada by right of Conquest and
ethnic cleansing of the previous inhabitants.  Hereditary title, of course.  Doesn't change the historical facts.

And by consent of the population.  And by law.

[Palisadoes]

She is the British Queen, who happens to be the Queen of Canada by right of Conquest and
ethnic cleansing of the previous inhabitants.  Hereditary title, of course.  Doesn't change the historical facts.

"Previous inhabitants" being the First Nations? So what are you, as a Quebecer, complaining about? By your own "logic" you shouldn't be there either.

[Barrister]

That's teh thing. She's not the british queen. She's our queen.

She is the British Queen, who happens to be the Queen of Canada by right of Conquest and
ethnic cleansing of the previous inhabitants.  Hereditary title, of course.  Doesn't change the historical facts.

WTF are you talking about?

You are aware, of course, that the current ruling dynasty rule in the UK (and Canada) because the English Parliament invited them to be their monarchs by passing the Act of Settlement?  They didn't conquer anything.

And you are also aware that numerous Commonwealth countries have become Republics by democratic means, and the Queen has done nothing but wish them well?

And ethnic cleansing?  What the hell are you talking about?  You can't be talking about natives, as they're still here.

[Valmy]

That's teh thing. She's not the british queen. She's our queen.

She is the British Queen, who happens to be the Queen of Canada by right of Conquest and
ethnic cleansing of the previous inhabitants.  Hereditary title, of course.  Doesn't change the historical facts.

Sounds exactly like every other Citizen of Canada.  And the United States.  Heck it is even a hereditary title

Well ok except the Native Americans.

[Valmy]

And ethnic cleansing?  What the hell are you talking about?  You can't be talking about natives, as they're still here.

Didn't you move them out of the way like we did?

[Barrister]

And ethnic cleansing?  What the hell are you talking about?  You can't be talking about natives, as they're still here.

Didn't you move them out of the way like we did?

No.

We signed treaties (which the natives are still very keen on us following, BTW) where they agreed to move into reserations that were already on their traditional land.  The whole forced migration of entire tribes is a very American phenomenon.

[Valmy]

No.

We signed treaties (which the natives are still very keen on us following, BTW) where they agreed to move into reserations that were already on their traditional land.  The whole forced migration of entire tribes is a very American phenomenon.

Maybe he is blaming the monarchy for the dastardly deeds we did while still British colonists?

I have a hard time believing the Natives were not at least a little intimidated into signing those treaties.  Especially with great guys like Amherst in charge.

[viper37]

You are aware, of course, that the current ruling dynasty rule in the UK (and Canada) because the English Parliament invited them to be their monarchs by passing the Act of Settlement?  They didn't conquer anything.

If I conquer a country, deport the people there who could oppose me, put my own people in place, make sure the colony is administered by people I choose, is it a wonder that they choose to remain loyal to my crown?

And ethnic cleansing?  What the hell are you talking about?  You can't be talking about natives, as they're still here.

First, there was the Acadians
Then, the small pox infected blankets given to indians, to get rid of them.  It was an official strategy by Amherst.
And the various deportation, attempted or successful of Indians and Métis, as well as the execution of Louis Riel to send a message that resistance was futile.

I'm not even talking about the forced assimilation of the French people outside of Quebec (mainly in Manitoba, and Ontario) following the Confederation, as these were technically crimes by the Canadians, not the British, even though we were a colony at the time.

[crazy canuck]

I have a hard time believing the Natives were not at least a little intimidated into signing those treaties.  Especially with great guys like Amherst in charge.

BB is oversimplifying a bit but in general he is correct.  In the West there were few treaties signed and we are paying for that now.

[Valmy]

Then, the small pox infected blankets given to indians, to get rid of them.  It was an official strategy by Amherst.

It was a little too late.  Small Pox had already decimated the Native Tribes because of the Seven Years War and the only suggestion this was ever tried happened before Amherst's infamous letter.  Besides even if this was an Amherst strategy it will please you to know it backfired badly since the American colonists were decimated by the worst outbreak of Smallpox in our history right around that time.  Something like 125,000 of us evil whitey Imperialists went down.

Amherst still sucks though.

[Viking]

meh... if Civilized nations didn't conquer and destroy the Barbarous then world would consist almost exclusively of the Barbarous. Furthermore I will assert that none of the "First Nations" of Canada were the first nation to occupy the land and the many generations of previous civilizations occupying each land had been genocided by the present "first nation" (scare quotes this time). To dip into the fetid pool of post-modernism, I consider it a grossly hegemonic imposition of Eurocentricims to treat the American Indians as innocent naïfs without worldlyness nor an ability to take responsability for their actions. No culture ethnically cleansed by "Imperialist Anglo-Canadians"!!!!1111oneoneoen didn't ethnically cleanse and/or assimilate a previous one.