Canada to firmly re-assess its status as a British colony

Started by viper37, August 15, 2011, 08:08:42 PM

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Viking

Quote from: Barrister on August 18, 2011, 11:42:12 AM
Quote from: Viking on August 18, 2011, 11:39:35 AM
Quote from: Malthus on August 18, 2011, 11:15:30 AM
Quote from: Valmy on August 18, 2011, 10:02:16 AM
Quote from: Malthus on August 18, 2011, 09:57:03 AM
Psst - don't tell Grallon, Viper & co. about the Royal Canadian Mint.    ;)

So long as they do not commit the ultimate insult and start putting the Queen's face on the currency I am ok with it.

I'm quite willing to be insulted - repeatedly - by recieving $20 bills from the good folks of Quebec.  :)

I remember a conversation with a Canadian Professor of Education at a cocktail party where I tried to convince her that Canada was a Monarchy, she seemed to think it was a Republic since Canada got it's Constitution. It wasn't until I asked her what face was on her money and walked her through the Canadian constitutional system that she relented and admitted that Canada was a Monarchy, just like Norway.

Well not exactly like Norway, since we have the Governor General as intermediary...

Norway had a Governor General from 1814 to 1905 :contract:

there are lots of irrelevant differences between the Norwegian and Canadian Monarchies.
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crazy canuck

Quote from: Viking on August 18, 2011, 11:39:35 AM
I remember a conversation with a Canadian Professor of Education at a cocktail party where I tried to convince her that Canada was a Monarchy, she seemed to think it was a Republic since Canada got it's Constitution. It wasn't until I asked her what face was on her money and walked her through the Canadian constitutional system that she relented and admitted that Canada was a Monarchy, just like Norway.

Since it was a cocktail party I am pretty sure you had a few too many and misremember how this went.  The only Canadian who thinks he is living in a Republic is Grallon.

Razgovory

Quote from: Grallon on August 18, 2011, 07:59:07 AM
Quote from: viper37 on August 17, 2011, 11:27:41 PM

Title: A colonized country.
I don't think the word "colonized" has the same meaning in English though.
Still en excellent text.  From a Federalist journalist in a federalist newspaper, before the usual accusations occur.



I read this this morning.  And yes, Anglo Canadians being what they are - the popularity of this move doesn't surprise me.  In fact I'm pleased since the more Canadians move in another direction then Quebecers, the easier it will be to bring the latter around and leave this federation.  ^_^




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Barrister

Quote from: crazy canuck on August 18, 2011, 11:56:28 AM
Quote from: Viking on August 18, 2011, 11:39:35 AM
I remember a conversation with a Canadian Professor of Education at a cocktail party where I tried to convince her that Canada was a Monarchy, she seemed to think it was a Republic since Canada got it's Constitution. It wasn't until I asked her what face was on her money and walked her through the Canadian constitutional system that she relented and admitted that Canada was a Monarchy, just like Norway.

Since it was a cocktail party I am pretty sure you had a few too many and misremember how this went.  The only Canadian who thinks he is living in a Republic is Grallon.

I've met a lot more ignorant Canadians than you have. :huh:
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Grallon

Quote from: crazy canuck on August 18, 2011, 11:56:28 AM
The only Canadian who thinks he is living in a Republic is Grallon.


:rolleyes:



You know perfectly well what I meant, but being a lawyer you naturally fall back to the common masturbatory tactic of semantics.




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Quote from: HVC on August 18, 2011, 11:09:19 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on August 18, 2011, 11:08:03 AM
Quote from: viper37 on August 17, 2011, 11:47:47 PM
The War of 1812 is apparently, for English Canada, the foundation of their national feelings, the first time they realized they were not Americans.

For all the times I was told I didnt understand Quebec (probably correctly) pot meet kettle.
Until then we felt left out for not being invited the revolutionary fun a few decades before :(

You were invited - you were just boorish and said no. :angry:
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Quote from: Grallon on August 18, 2011, 12:39:42 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on August 18, 2011, 11:56:28 AM
The only Canadian who thinks he is living in a Republic is Grallon.


:rolleyes:



You know perfectly well what I meant, but being a lawyer you naturally fall back to the common masturbatory tactic of semantics.




G.

Come on it was a good joke.

viper37

Quote from: Viking on August 18, 2011, 11:44:04 AM
Norway had a Governor General from 1814 to 1905 :contract:

You weren't an independant country then.
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Quote from: HVC on August 18, 2011, 11:09:19 AM
Until then we felt left out for not being invited the revolutionary fun a few decades before :(
You probably felt no different than you felt when being Virginian colonists, South Carolian colonists or Massachussets colonists.
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Quote from: crazy canuck on August 18, 2011, 11:08:03 AM
For all the times I was told I didnt understand Quebec (probably correctly) pot meet kettle.
The expression is "Les deux Solitudes", meaning that both are unable to understand each another.  Like a married couple having seperate bedrooms.  They are together, but not together ;)

I still don't get that fascination about the British monarchy.  Sure, in 1812, Canadians felt British, and they were the most British of all the Americans, I get that.  In WW1 and WW2, I was told it was because there had been an influx of newly arrived British immigrants seeking a newer life, and some of them even felt more British than Canadian, wich prompted them to enlist under the British flag.  I can get that too.

But today, 2011?  Replacing paintings from a well known Canadian artist by portraits of the Queen?  Wtf!??  What kind of weird fetish is this?

Receiving the Prince and his new wife, I could get it too, Quebec city's mayor had asked of the Feds to invite them, to boost tourism, and it apparently works.  Now, if you ask me to understand all those people who want to see William and Kate from 100m away, that I don't get.  I don't get that weird thing either about "seeing" Hollywood stars from a distance or touring accross the parts of L.A. where they have their houses, but, silly me, I must be a really boring individual for not partaking into such idiocies.  I wouldn't mind having a drink with Jessica Biel, but seeing her from 300ft away while behind some fence, I just don't get it.  But it seems it's a popular activity with the monarchy.  Oh well.

And now... Instead of building on the future of our troops and adressing more pressing problems, we go back in time, we turn the wheel.  Still don't get why so many English Canadians play the Cheerleaders on this, like the Globe&Mail editorial.
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Quote from: viper37 on August 18, 2011, 01:41:32 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on August 18, 2011, 11:08:03 AM
For all the times I was told I didnt understand Quebec (probably correctly) pot meet kettle.


I still don't get that fascination about the British monarchy. 
That's teh thing. She's not the british queen. She's our queen.
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Quote from: viper37 on August 18, 2011, 01:41:32 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on August 18, 2011, 11:08:03 AM
For all the times I was told I didnt understand Quebec (probably correctly) pot meet kettle.
The expression is "Les deux Solitudes", meaning that both are unable to understand each another.  Like a married couple having seperate bedrooms.  They are together, but not together ;)

I still don't get that fascination about the British monarchy.  Sure, in 1812, Canadians felt British, and they were the most British of all the Americans, I get that.  In WW1 and WW2, I was told it was because there had been an influx of newly arrived British immigrants seeking a newer life, and some of them even felt more British than Canadian, wich prompted them to enlist under the British flag.  I can get that too.

But today, 2011?  Replacing paintings from a well known Canadian artist by portraits of the Queen?  Wtf!??  What kind of weird fetish is this?

Receiving the Prince and his new wife, I could get it too, Quebec city's mayor had asked of the Feds to invite them, to boost tourism, and it apparently works.  Now, if you ask me to understand all those people who want to see William and Kate from 100m away, that I don't get.  I don't get that weird thing either about "seeing" Hollywood stars from a distance or touring accross the parts of L.A. where they have their houses, but, silly me, I must be a really boring individual for not partaking into such idiocies.  I wouldn't mind having a drink with Jessica Biel, but seeing her from 300ft away while behind some fence, I just don't get it.  But it seems it's a popular activity with the monarchy.  Oh well.

And now... Instead of building on the future of our troops and adressing more pressing problems, we go back in time, we turn the wheel.  Still don't get why so many English Canadians play the Cheerleaders on this, like the Globe&Mail editorial.

Because it's not a fascination with the British monarchy.  It's a fascination with our monarchy, and with our traditions and heritage.

I wouldn't be particularily interested in, say, establishing a Canadian knighthood, and having the government start handing out Sirs to people.  That's never been our history.  Nor would I want beefeaters patrolling on Parliament Hill, or to start celebrating Guy Fawkes day.  That has nothing to do with Canada.

But the RCAF and RCN?  Now those are Canadian.

In particular, my granfather served as a wireless operator with the RCAF during the war, and he was exceedingly proud of it (though he didn't talk much about it).  I know he'd be damn proud to know they have returned to that name.
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Valmy

Quote from: viper37 on August 18, 2011, 01:41:32 PM
Receiving the Prince and his new wife, I could get it too, Quebec city's mayor had asked of the Feds to invite them, to boost tourism, and it apparently works.  Now, if you ask me to understand all those people who want to see William and Kate from 100m away, that I don't get.  I don't get that weird thing either about "seeing" Hollywood stars from a distance or touring accross the parts of L.A. where they have their houses, but, silly me, I must be a really boring individual for not partaking into such idiocies.  I wouldn't mind having a drink with Jessica Biel, but seeing her from 300ft away while behind some fence, I just don't get it.  But it seems it's a popular activity with the monarchy.  Oh well.

Yet it sounds like you do.  They are celebrities.  They are glamorous.  There is nothing really to get.
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Quote from: viper37 on August 18, 2011, 01:37:58 PM
Quote from: HVC on August 18, 2011, 11:09:19 AM
Until then we felt left out for not being invited the revolutionary fun a few decades before :(
You probably felt no different than you felt when being Virginian colonists, South Carolian colonists or Massachussets colonists.

Damn HVC how many colonies were you a part of?
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