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Most overrated WW2 commander

Started by Threviel, July 28, 2011, 02:27:58 AM

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Who is the most overrated commander of WW2?

Rommel
9 (17.3%)
von Manstein
0 (0%)
Guderian
0 (0%)
von Rundstedt
1 (1.9%)
Kesselring
0 (0%)
Montgomery
11 (21.2%)
Slim
0 (0%)
Auchinleck
0 (0%)
Bomber Harris
1 (1.9%)
Cunningham
0 (0%)
de Gaulle
2 (3.8%)
Eisenhower
0 (0%)
MacArthur
7 (13.5%)
Patton
11 (21.2%)
Nimitz
1 (1.9%)
Halsey
0 (0%)
Zhukov
5 (9.6%)
Rokossovsky
0 (0%)
Konev
0 (0%)
Vasilevsky
0 (0%)
Timoshenko
0 (0%)
Chiang Kai-Chek
0 (0%)
Mao
2 (3.8%)
Tito
0 (0%)
Yamashita
0 (0%)
Yamamoto
0 (0%)
Nagumo
0 (0%)
Mannerheim
0 (0%)
Jaron/other
2 (3.8%)

Total Members Voted: 51

Zoupa

Quote from: Threviel on July 29, 2011, 01:32:33 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on July 29, 2011, 01:08:10 AM
Quote from: Barrister on July 29, 2011, 12:25:52 AM
Quote from: Threviel on July 28, 2011, 03:17:30 AM
Well, I tried to have at least one from every major combatant. Though I couldn't find any Italian to put there.

Canada? :yeahright:

I think you missed this word.  There wasn't a Slovak commander on the list either.

What Raz said.

Sure. I guess 20% of D-Day means nothing.

Threviel

Quote from: Zoupa on July 29, 2011, 01:42:52 AM
Quote from: Threviel on July 29, 2011, 01:32:33 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on July 29, 2011, 01:08:10 AM
Quote from: Barrister on July 29, 2011, 12:25:52 AM
Quote from: Threviel on July 28, 2011, 03:17:30 AM
Well, I tried to have at least one from every major combatant. Though I couldn't find any Italian to put there.

Canada? :yeahright:

I think you missed this word.  There wasn't a Slovak commander on the list either.

What Raz said.

Sure. I guess 20% of D-Day means nothing.

No, not in the grand scheme of things. Sure, the canucks did good in the war, large escort fleet and an army in the western front. But what commander precisely should I have added?

Barrister

Quote from: Threviel on July 29, 2011, 02:06:32 AM
Quote from: Zoupa on July 29, 2011, 01:42:52 AM
Quote from: Threviel on July 29, 2011, 01:32:33 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on July 29, 2011, 01:08:10 AM
Quote from: Barrister on July 29, 2011, 12:25:52 AM
Quote from: Threviel on July 28, 2011, 03:17:30 AM
Well, I tried to have at least one from every major combatant. Though I couldn't find any Italian to put there.

Canada? :yeahright:

I think you missed this word.  There wasn't a Slovak commander on the list either.

What Raz said.

Sure. I guess 20% of D-Day means nothing.

No, not in the grand scheme of things. Sure, the canucks did good in the war, large escort fleet and an army in the western front. But what commander precisely should I have added?

Harry Crerar.
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

Threviel

Quote from: Barrister on July 29, 2011, 02:10:55 AM
Quote from: Threviel on July 29, 2011, 02:06:32 AM
Quote from: Zoupa on July 29, 2011, 01:42:52 AM
Quote from: Threviel on July 29, 2011, 01:32:33 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on July 29, 2011, 01:08:10 AM
Quote from: Barrister on July 29, 2011, 12:25:52 AM
Quote from: Threviel on July 28, 2011, 03:17:30 AM
Well, I tried to have at least one from every major combatant. Though I couldn't find any Italian to put there.

Canada? :yeahright:

I think you missed this word.  There wasn't a Slovak commander on the list either.

What Raz said.

Sure. I guess 20% of D-Day means nothing.

No, not in the grand scheme of things. Sure, the canucks did good in the war, large escort fleet and an army in the western front. But what commander precisely should I have added?

Harry Crerar.

Never heard of him, why does he fit in amongst the commanders above?

Eddie Teach

Hard to be overrated when people don't know who you are.
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Barrister

Hey - you don't have to list generals from every combatant.

But if you're going to list fucking yugoslavs, and you claim to list combatants from each major power, you should list a Canadian.  And Gen. Crerar was the most senior Canadian commander during WWII.  And his Canadian 1st Army did liberate Holland.
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

Richard Hakluyt

Maybe you should start a most underrated poll. I think a lot of the Canadian war effort is subsumed within the British war effort by non-Canadians, which is a pity. Or you could hire the PR men that the Aussies use  :cool:

Martinus

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on July 29, 2011, 02:22:12 AM
Hard to be overrated when people don't know who you are.

LOL no kidding.  :lmfao:

Threviel

Quote from: Barrister on July 29, 2011, 02:25:42 AM
Hey - you don't have to list generals from every combatant.

But if you're going to list fucking yugoslavs, and you claim to list combatants from each major power, you should list a Canadian.  And Gen. Crerar was the most senior Canadian commander during WWII.  And his Canadian 1st Army did liberate Holland.

My ambition was to list generals from the major powers meaning: Germany, Italy, Soviet Union, China, Japan, US, GB. Besides that I wanted prominent and famous commanders. I of course couldn't find any overrated italian commander so that's a fail, but whatever.

Some dude that commanded an army on the western front isn't prominent enough. If that were enough the list would be full of german and soviet generals.

Viking

Quote from: Threviel on July 29, 2011, 02:40:52 AM
Quote from: Barrister on July 29, 2011, 02:25:42 AM
Hey - you don't have to list generals from every combatant.

But if you're going to list fucking yugoslavs, and you claim to list combatants from each major power, you should list a Canadian.  And Gen. Crerar was the most senior Canadian commander during WWII.  And his Canadian 1st Army did liberate Holland.

My ambition was to list generals from the major powers meaning: Germany, Italy, Soviet Union, China, Japan, US, GB. Besides that I wanted prominent and famous commanders. I of course couldn't find any overrated italian commander so that's a fail, but whatever.

Some dude that commanded an army on the western front isn't prominent enough. If that were enough the list would be full of german and soviet generals.

Yes, many Soviet Armies on the Western Front. Too many to count.  :hmm:
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

The Brain

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Threviel

Quote from: Viking on July 29, 2011, 02:44:27 AM
Quote from: Threviel on July 29, 2011, 02:40:52 AM
Quote from: Barrister on July 29, 2011, 02:25:42 AM
Hey - you don't have to list generals from every combatant.

But if you're going to list fucking yugoslavs, and you claim to list combatants from each major power, you should list a Canadian.  And Gen. Crerar was the most senior Canadian commander during WWII.  And his Canadian 1st Army did liberate Holland.

My ambition was to list generals from the major powers meaning: Germany, Italy, Soviet Union, China, Japan, US, GB. Besides that I wanted prominent and famous commanders. I of course couldn't find any overrated italian commander so that's a fail, but whatever.

Some dude that commanded an army on the western front isn't prominent enough. If that were enough the list would be full of german and soviet generals.

Yes, many Soviet Armies on the Western Front. Too many to count.  :hmm:

:frusty: If army command were enough the list would be full of german and soviet generals. Better?

Viking

Quote from: Threviel on July 29, 2011, 02:48:09 AM

:frusty: If army command were enough the list would be full of german and soviet generals. Better?
Much better, but please don't start thinking that a Red Army Division is to be counted as a full division.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Threviel

Quote from: Viking on July 29, 2011, 02:59:17 AM
Quote from: Threviel on July 29, 2011, 02:48:09 AM

:frusty: If army command were enough the list would be full of german and soviet generals. Better?
Much better, but please don't start thinking that a Red Army Division is to be counted as a full division.

FFS :frusty: . If army, army group or front (where applicable) command were enough the list would be full of german and soviet generals. Better?

Grey Fox

Quote from: The Brain on July 29, 2011, 02:45:00 AM
lol Canadians

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