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Started by Threviel, July 28, 2011, 02:27:58 AM

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Who is the most overrated commander of WW2?

Rommel
9 (17.3%)
von Manstein
0 (0%)
Guderian
0 (0%)
von Rundstedt
1 (1.9%)
Kesselring
0 (0%)
Montgomery
11 (21.2%)
Slim
0 (0%)
Auchinleck
0 (0%)
Bomber Harris
1 (1.9%)
Cunningham
0 (0%)
de Gaulle
2 (3.8%)
Eisenhower
0 (0%)
MacArthur
7 (13.5%)
Patton
11 (21.2%)
Nimitz
1 (1.9%)
Halsey
0 (0%)
Zhukov
5 (9.6%)
Rokossovsky
0 (0%)
Konev
0 (0%)
Vasilevsky
0 (0%)
Timoshenko
0 (0%)
Chiang Kai-Chek
0 (0%)
Mao
2 (3.8%)
Tito
0 (0%)
Yamashita
0 (0%)
Yamamoto
0 (0%)
Nagumo
0 (0%)
Mannerheim
0 (0%)
Jaron/other
2 (3.8%)

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Threviel

July 28, 2011, 02:27:58 AM
We did it for yank presidents, now let's do it for commanders of WW2.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commanders_of_World_War_II for more information about them.

The Brain

#1
July 28, 2011, 02:30:09 AM
At least not Mannerheim.
Women want me. Men want to be with me.

Razgovory

#2
July 28, 2011, 02:49:43 AM
Who ranks Chiang Kai-Chek highly?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Martinus

#3
July 28, 2011, 02:55:21 AM
Most likely Montgomery.

Martinus

#4
July 28, 2011, 02:56:51 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on July 28, 2011, 02:49:43 AM
Who ranks Chiang Kai-Chek highly?

I know. Several others, like de Gaulle, are not really ranked among excellent commanders either. This seems like a silly list (possibly of all WW2 commanders). People will end up voting for genuinely shitty commanders but that's not what overrated means.

Norgy

#5
July 28, 2011, 02:58:38 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on July 28, 2011, 02:49:43 AM
Who ranks Chiang Kai-Chek highly?

Not even Madame Chang.

Razgovory

#6
July 28, 2011, 03:05:38 AM
Quote from: Martinus on July 28, 2011, 02:56:51 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on July 28, 2011, 02:49:43 AM
Who ranks Chiang Kai-Chek highly?

I know. Several others, like de Gaulle, are not really ranked among excellent commanders either. This seems like a silly list (possibly of all WW2 commanders). People will end up voting for genuinely shitty commanders but that's not what overrated means.

Well Chiang is the only one on the list to be on the winning side and still lose.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Threviel

#7
July 28, 2011, 03:17:30 AM
Well, I tried to have at least one from every major combatant. Though I couldn't find any Italian to put there.

Norgy

#8
July 28, 2011, 03:19:22 AM
Graziani.

Eddie Teach

#9
July 28, 2011, 03:25:32 AM
Rommel seems to be the one bandied about in "greatest WW2 general" discussions with the least to show for it on the field, so probably him.
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11B4V

#10
July 28, 2011, 03:55:57 AM
Zhukov
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

Viking

#11
July 28, 2011, 03:56:44 AM
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

The Brain

#12
July 28, 2011, 04:19:16 AM
Women want me. Men want to be with me.

Viking

#14
July 28, 2011, 04:31:40 AM
Quote from: Norgy on July 28, 2011, 04:24:22 AM
Quote from: Viking on July 28, 2011, 03:56:44 AM
Quote from: Norgy on July 28, 2011, 03:19:22 AM
Graziani.

Italo Balbo  :rolleyes:

Paolo Rossi.

I see your soccer player with Brig.Gen. Cesare Rossi and raise you Brig. Gen. Francesco Rossi.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.
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