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Started by Kleves, July 23, 2011, 03:45:12 PM

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Mirror, mirror, on the wall, who's the most overrated of them all?

Jefferson
2 (3.9%)
TR
1 (2%)
FDR
9 (17.6%)
Truman
3 (5.9%)
JFK
10 (19.6%)
Reagan
20 (39.2%)
Bush I
0 (0%)
Clinton
2 (3.9%)
Other
4 (7.8%)

Total Members Voted: 50

Ed Anger

Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 23, 2011, 07:36:23 PM
:D

Good one Dump Truck.

We need to break you from this nickname habit.
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: Ed Anger on July 23, 2011, 06:16:45 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on July 23, 2011, 06:15:40 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 23, 2011, 06:13:03 PM


He wasn't Jimmy Carter.

In many ways he was.  The deregulation trend started under Carter and so did the arming of the Muhajeedeen in Afghanistan.

Hush, you. Let me hate on Jimmy in peace.

Fuck you, sweater vest monkey.  You come after James Earle Carter: Cold Warrior, you come after me.

Razgovory

Quote from: grumbler on July 23, 2011, 07:41:27 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 23, 2011, 07:31:12 PM
He didn't attack a union.  He fired some federal workers who were striking illegally.
I don't believe that that's an answer Raz wants.

You were the one to characterize them as PATCO, which was a labor union.  I simply rolled with what you wrote.
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Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

CountDeMoney

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grumbler

Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 23, 2011, 08:08:52 PM
Reminds me of the old Bloom County cartoon, where Santa fired all the elves.
But Santa was the first to characterize them as elves, and the cartoon simply rolled with what he wrote.
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JFK.  I'm not sure it's possible to overrate Clinton, that whoremonger.
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Jeffereson was pretty awful aside from the Louisiana purchase. Voted for him.

Wilson and JFK would get 2nd and 3rd place.
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Ideologue

Quote from: Ed Anger on July 23, 2011, 07:49:43 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 23, 2011, 07:36:23 PM
:D

Good one Dump Truck.

We need to break you from this nickname habit.

I guessed he was referring to me, but I can't be sure and really I have no idea what that meant.
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: Ideologue on July 23, 2011, 10:26:45 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 23, 2011, 07:49:43 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 23, 2011, 07:36:23 PM
:D

Good one Dump Truck.

We need to break you from this nickname habit.

I guessed he was referring to me, but I can't be sure and really I have no idea what that meant.

Dude, you dumped Korea.

Razgovory

I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

PRC

Quote from: grumbler on July 23, 2011, 06:43:49 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on July 23, 2011, 06:12:12 PM
What was so great about the first term?
Inflation went from 13% to under 4%, Reagan hammered the PATCO fucks, income taxes dropped 40% at the top level and 30% at the lowest level, while increasing revenues, the Grenada invasion, and the whole "last pages of communism" stance including his handling of the cruise/Pershing deployment that would lead to the IRNF Treaty.  "Morning in America."

You can certainly blame his administration foir ignoring the problems with the S&L business (which would blow up in his second term) and the Lebanon miscalculation that turned into a disaster, but it was a great first term, by any standards.

Read some history.

What was great about the Grenada invasion?  Honest question, I know nothing about that event other than vaguely, perhaps mistakenly, recalling that OvB took part in it in some limited capacity. 

Tonitrus

It might just be that the best result to come from Grenada was making possible the film Heartbreak Ridge, irregardless of Mario Van Peebles.

Ideologue

Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 23, 2011, 10:31:37 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on July 23, 2011, 10:26:45 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 23, 2011, 07:49:43 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 23, 2011, 07:36:23 PM
:D

Good one Dump Truck.

We need to break you from this nickname habit.

I guessed he was referring to me, but I can't be sure and really I have no idea what that meant.

Dude, you dumped Korea.

While I appreciate your historical revisionism, that's not how I recall it happening. :P
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Ideologue

Quote from: PRC on July 24, 2011, 02:11:40 AM
Quote from: grumbler on July 23, 2011, 06:43:49 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on July 23, 2011, 06:12:12 PM
What was so great about the first term?
Inflation went from 13% to under 4%, Reagan hammered the PATCO fucks, income taxes dropped 40% at the top level and 30% at the lowest level, while increasing revenues, the Grenada invasion, and the whole "last pages of communism" stance including his handling of the cruise/Pershing deployment that would lead to the IRNF Treaty.  "Morning in America."

You can certainly blame his administration foir ignoring the problems with the S&L business (which would blow up in his second term) and the Lebanon miscalculation that turned into a disaster, but it was a great first term, by any standards.

Read some history.

What was great about the Grenada invasion?  Honest question, I know nothing about that event other than vaguely, perhaps mistakenly, recalling that OvB took part in it in some limited capacity.

The only things I know about Grenada I learned from that arc in Doonesbury where Duke set up the Baby Doc Medical School.
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MadImmortalMan

Quote from: DGuller on July 23, 2011, 07:49:09 PM
That's a questionable claim as well.

Spending is the only thing that can lead to deficits. Logically. It's not questionable. Every Republican president since and including Reagan did it.
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"Complacency can be a self-denying prophecy."
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