Breaking News - Major Terrorist Attack In Oslo, Norway

[Ideologue]

Haw.  Out of curiosity, is that also the Pole version of Eugene?

No. Polish is "Eugeniusz". If you want a Polish version of a name, you have to take an English name, mispspell it, and add a W or CZ or SZ somewhere. 

Sorry to ask a boring-ass followup, but do you guys have the "yeh" sound or is an E pronounced "eh" or "ee" (although in that case, however, I'd assume a long "u"?

I know that Polish isn't that closely related to Russian, so it's probably like assuming that Romanian is pronounced the same as French.

E is pronounced like "eh" - similar to the "e" in "bed".

We have the "yeh" sound but it's achieved by putting "e" behind "i" or "j" (e.g. "pies" - meaning a "dog" or "jechać" meaning "to ride"). The sound is slightly different between both, but in principle you get "ie" when it follows a consonant and "je" when it is at the beginning of a word or after a vowel (but sometimes there can be "je" after a consonant, when the word is built from another word with "je" at the beginning - e.g. "wjechać" meaning "to ride into" or "zjechać" meaning "to ride down" or "najechać" meaning "to ride onto" or "invade").

Neat.  Thanks.

[The Minsky Moment]

Not genes, but genealogy. Unless you think countries / societies /  collective entities reinvent themselves every generation or so.

In part, yes.

[Slargos]

We're not talking about "crocodile tears", but honest self-reflection and real tears of sadness, anger and frustration. We're not talking about journalists trying to shift the blame, but to inform the public. Janne Kristiansen explained well why the Westend Mass Murderer flew under the radar, and no matter how you see it or read it, there was no attempt to blame it on the security service. I notice Gates of Vienna and assorted other wingnut sites are spending most of their energy to distance themselves from the monster from Skøyen. Maybe they're even reflecting whether their collective mass psychosis is correct?

Self-reflection is what people tend to do in the aftermath of trauma, and at least to me, the events of Friday 22nd is a gaping trauma. Everyone wants to find some answers, if only to get some peace. I'd also say that mourning is a fairly human reaction.

Maybe you're right.

I see a lot of scrambling to assign blame in every direction, though, when there's only really once place that blame can be assigned.

Maybe this is a necessary part of the healing process, I don't know. I just don't like it.

[Valdemar]

I'm going to punch Beeb in the nuts next time I'm in Canada. How is that?

I always wondered about that threat..

Are you a midget or something? I mean, punching him in the nuts would imply either you are on you knees, or that he is a towering giant, or that you are a midget.

Kicking his nuts, or punching his nose I can get, that would be on the level so to speak

V

[Neil]

Quit being a cunt.  That's not a threat, that's an analysis.

Please explain the difference between a threat and an analysis in the statement that someone should  be killed.

Intent.

[Ed Anger]

I'm going to punch Beeb in the nuts next time I'm in Canada. How is that?

I always wondered about that threat..

Are you a midget or something? I mean, punching him in the nuts would imply either you are on you knees, or that he is a towering giant, or that you are a midget.

Kicking his nuts, or punching his nose I can get, that would be on the level so to speak

V

6 glorious feet. I'll hire a midget to do the work.

[Jacob]

Then call the cops, motherfucker.  Beeb can try and prosecute me himself.

Nobody was prosecuted for saying that the US deserved 9/11, so I like my chances.

For some reason Bon Jovi's "Blaze of Glory" comes to mind.

Besides, Canadian law (which is utterly retarded in all matters relating to free speech) doesn't have jurisdiction wherever Slargos is.  I think that you would be performing a public service if you were to kill yourself today.

Well, according the Raz (and Slargos when the mood strikes him) Norwegian law is much more stringent than Canadian law in these matters. So the jurisdiction thing may not be the obstacle you think it is.

[Barrister]

Quit being a cunt.  That's not a threat, that's an analysis.

Not under Canadian law. Just ask BB.

Then call the cops, motherfucker.  Beeb can try and prosecute me himself.

Nobody was prosecuted for saying that the US deserved 9/11, so I like my chances.

Besides, Canadian law (which is utterly retarded in all matters relating to free speech) doesn't have jurisdiction wherever Slargos is.  I think that you would be performing a public service if you were to kill yourself today.

Don't tempt me, Neil-o.  You know you're in my jurisdiction now.

And an uttering threats charge could be prosecuted in both the jurisdiction where the utterer is, and where the receiver is.

Now I'm not saying anyone has committed a crime here.  Hell I don't even know which particular unhinged comment of Slargy we're talking about.  I'm just pointing out that some of the defense mentioned (like being a conditional threat, or differing jurisdiction) wouldn't fly.

[Slargos]

Then call the cops, motherfucker.  Beeb can try and prosecute me himself.

Nobody was prosecuted for saying that the US deserved 9/11, so I like my chances.

For some reason Bon Jovi's "Blaze of Glory" comes to mind.

Besides, Canadian law (which is utterly retarded in all matters relating to free speech) doesn't have jurisdiction wherever Slargos is.  I think that you would be performing a public service if you were to kill yourself today.

Well, according the Raz (and Slargos when the mood strikes him) Norwegian law is much more stringent than Canadian law in these matters. So the jurisdiction thing may not be the obstacle you think it is.

If I ever were to tell you, "I'm going to find you and rape your wife infront of you before I kill you" there might actually be some merit to the notion that it would be prosecutable. I really doubt there would be tremendous police efforts in tracking me down and prosecuting me, but I suppose it would actually be theoretically possible. Of course, being that the server isn't in Norway there's all sorts of iffy legal issues. I can't recall ever having read about any such case going to court in Norway.

Now, you'd need to piss me off a fair bit more for me to even make such a threat, and beyond that you'd have to work very hard to make me go through with it. 

[Jacob]

If I ever were to tell you, "I'm going to find you and rape your wife infront of you before I kill you" there might actually be some merit to the notion that it would be prosecutable. I really doubt there would be tremendous police efforts in tracking me down and prosecuting me, but I suppose it would actually be theoretically possible. Of course, being that the server isn't in Norway there's all sorts of iffy legal issues. I can't recall ever having read about any such case going to court in Norway.

Now, you'd need to piss me off a fair bit more for me to even make such a threat, and beyond that you'd have to work very hard to make me go through with it. 

Way to burst my bubble 

[Slargos]

If I ever were to tell you, "I'm going to find you and rape your wife infront of you before I kill you" there might actually be some merit to the notion that it would be prosecutable. I really doubt there would be tremendous police efforts in tracking me down and prosecuting me, but I suppose it would actually be theoretically possible. Of course, being that the server isn't in Norway there's all sorts of iffy legal issues. I can't recall ever having read about any such case going to court in Norway.

Now, you'd need to piss me off a fair bit more for me to even make such a threat, and beyond that you'd have to work very hard to make me go through with it. 

Way to burst my bubble 

Whoa. Did you miss the fact that I implied there is a chance? 

It's a pretty small bubble, but it's intact. 

[Grey Fox]

The server is in Texas. Texas & US law have jurisdiction.

[Barrister]

The server is in Texas. Texas & US law have jurisdiction.

In fact in this case Norway, Texas and Canada all have overlapping jurisdiction.

Isn't criminal law fun? 

[Slargos]

What I don't get, is that working on the stipulation that I am in fact "unhinged", why would you want to fuck with me like that? 

[crazy canuck]

The server is in Texas. Texas & US law have jurisdiction.

Correction, Texas is one of the possible places that may take jurisdiction in addition to the jurisdictions of the sender and the reciever.  Now we start getting into the nuances of the conflicts of laws and really is Slargo worth all that bother.