White USAnians, who's the minority now?

[Strix]

Are you implying that in 100 years, we will all be grumbler? 

Nonsense, it has taken thousands of years for him to get that way.

[grumbler]

Are you implying that in 100 years, we will all be grumbler? 

Nonsense, it has taken thousands of years for him to get that way.

Exactly.  One cannot get this advanced in a mere century. 

Everyone, carry on with your "one drop" nonsense.

[Valmy]

I find the whole Hispanic thing weird.  They'll be considered a sub-group of white within a hundred years, just like the Italians and the Irish are now.

They certainly stretch our concepts of race and nationality.  We put these things into context as if the other minority groups have the sort of racial nationalistic conciousness the Black Americans do.  But the Latinos (and the other rapidly growing immigrant group the Asians) are divided into dozens of ethnic and national groups.  They are more likely to join the American Borg like the Euro immigrants before them then create a culture all their own like the Black Americans (and even in their case they created theirs mostly out of necessity).  So the whole 'minority majority' thing is not going to mean much.

I mean Texas is minority majority and nobody points to what an incredibly diverse culture we have.

[Valmy]

I find the whole Hispanic thing weird.  They'll be considered a sub-group of white within a hundred years, just like the Italians and the Irish are now.

I'm wondering if, in a hundred years, the concepts of "white" and "black" and "yellow" and "red" and whateverelse to describe people won't be laughed at as a silly concept.  I am laughing now.

Well we can always hope.

[Valmy]

Are there really grants specifically for asians or african-americans in the US? Do they ask for any sort of "proof"?

A pedigree showing pure Asian roots going back a thousand years!

Actually I think it is an honor system in most cases.

[dps]

Are there really grants specifically for asians or african-americans in the US? Do they ask for any sort of "proof"?

A pedigree showing pure Asian roots going back a thousand years!

Actually I think it is an honor system in most cases.

I know that at one time, the requirement to get any of the set-asides for being Hispanic was to have a Spanish surname.  Which kind of screws someone who's 15/16 Spanish, but the 1/16 happens to be the person whose their surname came from.  OTOH, there was a guy who was an Anglo, a member of one of the FFVs (first families of Virginia) who legally changed his last name to Hernandez or something like that to qualify for a set-aside, and the courts sided with him and said that he qualified IIRC, so Congress changed the law rather quickly.

[Siege]

I find the whole Hispanic thing weird.  They'll be considered a sub-group of white within a hundred years, just like the Italians and the Irish are now.

T'would make more sense to consider the majority of them a variant of Native American.

I think you are right.
The latinos descend from native americans from the spanish colonies that learned to speak their conquerors' language.
Majority of mexicans appear to have zero spanish genes, anyway.

I think you are right. Brown latinos should be considered native-americans, and white latinos a subgroup of caucasian.
And whoever is not happy, can call himself mixed race.
I'm pretty sure the majority of humankind are mixed race one way or another.

[Valmy]

I think you can choose Native American and Hispanic...if you choose to do so.

In any case races in the US are not based on genetic descent but self identification.  At least officially.

[dps]

I think you can choose Native American and Hispanic...if you choose to do so.

In any case races in the US are not based on genetic descent but self identification.  At least officially.

Yeah, the way the census forms put it is that Hispanics can be of any race.

[Slargos]

Which is clearly nonsense.

[The Brain]

I think you can choose Native American and Hispanic...if you choose to do so.

In any case races in the US are not based on genetic descent but self identification.  At least officially.

Yeah, the way the census forms put it is that Hispanics can be of any race.

...as long as it's black?

[Iormlund]

I assume that you could claim hispanic heritage in the US.

The thought of claiming an ancestry is quite alien to me. Would that grant me any material advantages?

Ancentry is everything. It tells me from where you came and where you are going.

Not really. For the record among my surnames are at least two typical examples of converso family names, which means I likely have some Jewish or Muslim ancestry.

[Slargos]

I think you can choose Native American and Hispanic...if you choose to do so.

In any case races in the US are not based on genetic descent but self identification.  At least officially.

Yeah, the way the census forms put it is that Hispanics can be of any race.

...as long as it's black?

Touché.

[garbon]

In any case races in the US are not based on genetic descent but self identification.  At least officially.

Although self-identification is certainly shaped by external factors.

[Valmy]

Although self-identification is certainly shaped by external factors.

Well yeah.  Though I did like your efforts to identify as Indian.