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The Fed Shutdown Poll and Megathread

Started by CountDeMoney, April 04, 2011, 06:12:03 AM

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Who's going to look better?

I think the teabaggers are right to destroy the budget, it's not in the constitution
16 (36.4%)
I stand with our beloved, sane and rational President
28 (63.6%)

Total Members Voted: 42

CountDeMoney

Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 07, 2011, 07:40:55 PM
Quote from: garbon on April 07, 2011, 12:38:00 PM
QuoteObama threatens to veto GOP budget extension plan
That seems really politically risky to me. He does that won't he get the blame for the shutdown that follows?

Dumbass, the "budget extension plan" involves 12 billion in cuts for a one week extension.  Obama said he'd accept a clean, no-cuts extention for a week.

12 billion in cuts.  For a week. They're calling it the "troop funding" extension, and yet they want to eliminate $350+ million from the VA.  Too funny.

Hansmeister

Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 07, 2011, 07:53:08 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on April 07, 2011, 07:44:22 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 07, 2011, 07:40:55 PM
Quote from: garbon on April 07, 2011, 12:38:00 PM
QuoteObama threatens to veto GOP budget extension plan
That seems really politically risky to me. He does that won't he get the blame for the shutdown that follows?

They didn't blame Clinton for the shutdown in the 1990's.  The Republicans are doing the same thing before and hoping for a different outcome.  I think Obama is being smart politically, but policy wise it does nothing.
Clinton didn't veto a budget extension did he? IIRC he just let the Republicans cut their own throat. Am I wrong? :unsure:
Yes, you are. Clinton vetoed the continuing resolution and shut down the gov't. But you're forgiven for getting it wrong since the msm lied and pretended it was the GOP's fault. Gingrich didn't help because he was proud to take responsibility for the shutdown. There are a few differences today.

1. The msm can't get away with bs like that anymore since they can't control the message.

2. Boehner is a lot more reasonable than Gingrich

3.  Obama is a lot dummer than Clinton

4.  We're actually having a real budget crisis this time

MadImmortalMan

Quote from: Hansmeister on April 07, 2011, 08:52:57 PM

4.  We're actually having a real budget crisis this time

Well that's true.
"Stability is destabilizing." --Hyman Minsky

"Complacency can be a self-denying prophecy."
"We have nothing to fear but lack of fear itself." --Larry Summers

Hansmeister

Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 07, 2011, 08:13:04 PM
Dumbass, the "budget extension plan" involves 12 billion in cuts for a one week extension.  Obama said he'd accept a clean, no-cuts extention for a week.

12 billion in cuts.  For a week. They're calling it the "troop funding" extension, and yet they want to eliminate $350+ million from the VA.  Too funny.

And here we have the infantile democratic position.  No, we can't cut anything, boohoo.

Well, the democrats completely fucked everything up last year by completely refusing to even start on the budget for the first time ever and are now crying about minuscule cuts.

CountDeMoney

Quote from: Hansmeister on April 07, 2011, 08:59:14 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 07, 2011, 08:13:04 PM
Dumbass, the "budget extension plan" involves 12 billion in cuts for a one week extension.  Obama said he'd accept a clean, no-cuts extention for a week.

12 billion in cuts.  For a week. They're calling it the "troop funding" extension, and yet they want to eliminate $350+ million from the VA.  Too funny.

And here we have the infantile democratic position.  No, we can't cut anything, boohoo.

Not for a week. Nope. Not for the benefit of stopping "abortion providers" in the District of Columbia, conveniently slipped in to the "troop funding" extension.

QuoteWell, the democrats completely fucked everything up last year by completely refusing to even start on the budget for the first time ever and are now crying about minuscule cuts.

Planned Parenthood is miniscule cuts in the big deficit picture.  But we know that niggers being allowed to get mammograms because they don't have healthcare isn't a miniscule issue for you Teabaggers.

Enjoy your furlough.

Hansmeister

The real problem is that Harry Reid has managed to piss off so many Senators that he is incapable to pass anything at all so he is trying to shift focus to the House.

Normally the house would pass a bill, then the senate, and then they would go to conference to hash out the differences.

Now the house has passed a bill while the senate hasnt done shit, but now demands that the house compromise on their own bill before they will take it up in the senate. And then you have the crazy leftist hacks in the msm and on this forum claim that this is the house's failure. This is nonsense, the only ones that have acted responsible are the house republicans.

Meanwhile we're heading towards a gov't shutdown this Friday, default by may 16, and insanely high deficits as far as the eye can see. The tea party are the only sane people in this circus, the democrats have lost all sense of reality.

garbon

Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 07, 2011, 09:05:46 PM
Planned Parenthood is miniscule cuts in the big deficit picture.  But we know that niggers being allowed to get mammograms because they don't have healthcare isn't a miniscule issue for you Teabaggers.

http://www.blackgenocide.org
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."

I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

MadImmortalMan

We're not gonna default on May 16th. There's plenty of income to service the debt. We'd have to not pay for other stuff but we could do it.

Might you mean hit the debt ceiling then?
"Stability is destabilizing." --Hyman Minsky

"Complacency can be a self-denying prophecy."
"We have nothing to fear but lack of fear itself." --Larry Summers

CountDeMoney

The Senate shit all over the bullshit riders the House tried to sneak in the first time, and they've since moved the goalposts and are trying it again.  The same riders.  Planned Parenthood, the EPA, the BATF, and STILL including tax cuts for the wealthy and megacorporations. 
It's not about the deficit.  It's not about jobs.  What it is about is the same old social bullshit song and dance from GOPtards.  Abortion, federal regulation, guns and more free rides for Wall Street and their country club buddies, all the usual fare.  They just don't get it.  They don't want to get it.

Hansmeister

Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 07, 2011, 09:05:46 PM
Not for a week. Nope. Not for the benefit of stopping "abortion providers" in the District of Columbia, conveniently slipped in to the "troop funding" extension.

QuoteWell, the democrats completely fucked everything up last year by completely refusing to even start on the budget for the first time ever and are now crying about minuscule cuts.

Planned Parenthood is miniscule cuts in the big deficit picture.  But we know that niggers being allowed to get mammograms because they don't have healthcare isn't a miniscule issue for you Teabaggers.

Enjoy your furlough.
We already establish that you only have infantile arguments, thanks for reiterating them. Didn't your governor just propose deep cuts to state employee benefits, indeed deeper cuts than what passed in Wisconsin?  Shouldn't you be out there protesting at the state Capitol, or you only complain if republicans cut your benefits?  Fucking tool.

CountDeMoney

Quote from: Hansmeister on April 07, 2011, 09:07:38 PM
Now the house has passed a bill while the senate hasnt done shit,

The "Government Shutdown Prevention Act of 2011"?

QuoteThe tea party are the only sane people in this circus, the democrats have lost all sense of reality.

lulz

Hansmeister

Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 07, 2011, 09:14:18 PM
The Senate shit all over the bullshit riders the House tried to sneak in the first time, and they've since moved the goalposts and are trying it again.  The same riders.  Planned Parenthood, the EPA, the BATF, and STILL including tax cuts for the wealthy and megacorporations. 
It's not about the deficit.  It's not about jobs.  What it is about is the same old social bullshit song and dance from GOPtards.  Abortion, federal regulation, guns and more free rides for Wall Street and their country club buddies, all the usual fare.  They just don't get it.  They don't want to get it.

Wall street elected Obama, you dumb fuck. They vote democrats because they guarantee them profits without having to work for them. You sure are ignorant.

Hansmeister

Quote from: garbon on April 07, 2011, 09:11:19 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 07, 2011, 09:05:46 PM
Planned Parenthood is miniscule cuts in the big deficit picture.  But we know that niggers being allowed to get mammograms because they don't have healthcare isn't a miniscule issue for you Teabaggers.

http://www.blackgenocide.org
Well, to be fair Planned Parenthood was founded for the expressed purpose of exterminating negroes, the retarded, and other mongrel races. Not to mention Jews.

CountDeMoney

Quote from: Hansmeister on April 07, 2011, 09:14:58 PM
We already establish that you only have infantile arguments, thanks for reiterating them. Didn't your governor just propose deep cuts to state employee benefits, indeed deeper cuts than what passed in Wisconsin?  Shouldn't you be out there protesting at the state Capitol, or you only complain if republicans cut your benefits?  Fucking tool.

My governor isn't attempting to destroy the state-funded safety nets out of ideological extremism while eliminating revenue streams at the same time.  Oh, and he worked with the other side to get it done.  So everybody's happy here in my little socialist paradise.

Plus, he plays in a band.  So he's cooler than any Teabagger could ever hope to be.

CountDeMoney

Quote from: Hansmeister on April 07, 2011, 09:17:09 PM
You sure are ignorant.

Quote from: HansmeisterThe tea party are the only sane people in this circus, the democrats have lost all sense of reality.