The Cause of the American Civil War and the US Citizenship Test

[jimmy olsen]

Aside from 3rd world self-determination an argument can be easily made for all of those.

Aside from 3rd world self-determination they're all different characterizations of the same thing.

Hmm...No.

I see Russian military expansion as synonymous with the argument on Great Power rivalries, and the economics argument as synonymous with the Communism argument but I wouldn't say the first two are the same as the last two.

[Martim Silva]

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Unbelievably,the official study guide for the U.S. citizenship test still lists three acceptable answers for the question about the causes of the Civil War: slavery, economic reasons and states' rights. The latter two answers, as Gov. Barbour now freely admits, are simply wrong. In fact, they are worse than wrong, because they obscure a central fact about American history. As Barbour put it, "the Civil War was necessary to bring about the abolition of slavery. Abolishing slavery was morally imperative and necessary, and it's regrettable that it took the Civil War to do it. But it did.

It that why Ulysses S. Grant was a slave owner, and he kept owning slaves even when he became President, years after the end of the Civil War?

Riiiiiight.

[Habbaku]

It that why Ulysses S. Grant was a slave owner, and he kept owning slaves even when he became President, years after the end of the Civil War?

[jimmy olsen]

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Unbelievably,the official study guide for the U.S. citizenship test still lists three acceptable answers for the question about the causes of the Civil War: slavery, economic reasons and states' rights. The latter two answers, as Gov. Barbour now freely admits, are simply wrong. In fact, they are worse than wrong, because they obscure a central fact about American history. As Barbour put it, "the Civil War was necessary to bring about the abolition of slavery. Abolishing slavery was morally imperative and necessary, and it's regrettable that it took the Civil War to do it. But it did.

It that why Ulysses S. Grant was a slave owner, and he kept owning slaves even when he became President, years after the end of the Civil War?

Riiiiiight.

He owned one slave before the war that he bought from his wife's father. Don't know what your yammering on about. He did far more to fight for Civil Rights than any President between him and LBJ.

[Caliga]

  That's beside the point, as Martisilva's assertion that Grant kept owning slaves when he was President, well after slavery was illegal, is in and of itself laughable.

[derspiess]

Some certainly did.  No idea how many though.

Pretty safe to say a majority opposed slavery, but I doubt a majority ever had that as their prime motivation.

[Berkut]

That's beside the point, as Martisilva's assertion that Grant kept owning slaves when he was President, well after slavery was illegal, is in and of itself laughable.

Grant was a capitalist. He had servants working for him in the White House.

All servants who do not own their own labor are slaves. Therefore Grant was a slaveowner.

This really is not the complicated.

[Berkut]

Some certainly did.  No idea how many though.

Pretty safe to say a majority opposed slavery, but I doubt a majority ever had that as their prime motivation.

This is kind of a silly point though.

I would say the one common principal those who fought for the north would espouse was saving the Union.

The reason the Union was potentially broken was the issue of slavery.

So no, I don't think most soldiers fought to free the slaves. They fought to save the Union. But the only reason the Union was in danger was slavery.

[Ed Anger]

lets see.

Oklahoma is close to declaring independence, cajun restaurants are being closed due to anti-french feelings and now Grant owned slaves after the civil war.

Portugal is awesome.

[Valmy]

It that why Ulysses S. Grant was a slave owner, and he kept owning slaves even when he became President, years after the end of the Civil War?

Riiiiiight.

His cousin's roommate's brother-in-law's great-great-grandfather was the Portuguese Ambassador during the Grant Administration.

[Razgovory]

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Unbelievably,the official study guide for the U.S. citizenship test still lists three acceptable answers for the question about the causes of the Civil War: slavery, economic reasons and states' rights. The latter two answers, as Gov. Barbour now freely admits, are simply wrong. In fact, they are worse than wrong, because they obscure a central fact about American history. As Barbour put it, "the Civil War was necessary to bring about the abolition of slavery. Abolishing slavery was morally imperative and necessary, and it's regrettable that it took the Civil War to do it. But it did.

It that why Ulysses S. Grant was a slave owner, and he kept owning slaves even when he became President, years after the end of the Civil War?

Riiiiiight.

[Berkut]

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Unbelievably,the official study guide for the U.S. citizenship test still lists three acceptable answers for the question about the causes of the Civil War: slavery, economic reasons and states' rights. The latter two answers, as Gov. Barbour now freely admits, are simply wrong. In fact, they are worse than wrong, because they obscure a central fact about American history. As Barbour put it, "the Civil War was necessary to bring about the abolition of slavery. Abolishing slavery was morally imperative and necessary, and it's regrettable that it took the Civil War to do it. But it did.

It that why Ulysses S. Grant was a slave owner, and he kept owning slaves even when he became President, years after the end of the Civil War?

Riiiiiight.

Gotta be nice to know you aren't the nuttiest dude on the board!

[Caliga]

Oklahoma is close to declaring independence

He must be a fan of that crazy Russian professor.  IIRC the USA was going to break up in early 2011, according to him.

[Malthus]

That's beside the point, as Martisilva's assertion that Grant kept owning slaves when he was President, well after slavery was illegal, is in and of itself laughable.

Hey, who do you think wrote his memoirs? 

[Maximus]

Is this a multiple choice test or you have to write in the answer?

It's a verbal exam, not multiple-choice. It's 3(I think, maybe a few more) questions picked randomly from a list. The list is public. Not very hard.