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Started by Josephus, March 22, 2011, 09:27:34 PM

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Valmy

Quote from: Razgovory on October 16, 2015, 09:54:57 PM
Not sure why that's relevant since Canada does not require this.  If the existence of Pornography is a form of oppression, then we should outlaw it right?

There are cultures in Canada that do require this. If there weren't it would indeed not be relevant and we would not be having this conversation.

I, of course, do not think any of it should be outlawed. But I disagree with your premise that sexual materials are automatically forms of oppression. But then neither is the Niqab. It is the cultural context that makes it oppressive or not.

Besides just because I oppose something does not mean it should be outlawed. Plenty of things I oppose are legal.
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Razgovory

Quote from: Valmy on October 16, 2015, 10:41:51 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 16, 2015, 09:54:57 PM
Not sure why that's relevant since Canada does not require this.  If the existence of Pornography is a form of oppression, then we should outlaw it right?

There are cultures in Canada that do require this. If there weren't it would indeed not be relevant and we would not be having this conversation.

I, of course, do not think any of it should be outlawed. But I disagree with your premise that sexual materials are automatically forms of oppression. But then neither is the Niqab. It is the cultural context that makes it oppressive or not.

Besides just because I oppose something does not mean it should be outlawed. Plenty of things I oppose are legal.

You know, I was really aiming my arguments toward Viper, and I think he does want state action in regards to things he opposes.  The question is if Niqab is a form of oppression, why isn't Viper concerned about forms oppression in his own culture.  Now I don't think either one is a form of oppression.
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Barrister

Quote from: Jacob on October 16, 2015, 06:02:48 PM
Rumours that Andrew Coyne may have resigned from the National Post: http://canadalandshow.com/article/andrew-coyne-v-national-post

Meh.  Coyne has drifted left for years.
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crazy canuck

I think your comment reflects what I see as the fundamental problem with the Conservatives.  Coyne has always been a principled conservative commentator.  In part because he does not have to toe the line for any party leader (he is after all independently wealthy).

He has certainly "drifted" away from supporting the Conservatives but that is a function of how far the conservatives have moved from the kind of party he once endorsed.

Valmy

So I was out at the fall festival in Marble Falls today and all the major ethnic groups of Texas (well except Native Americans because well...) were there and there were some ladies wearing the Niqab. I wondered how those damn Canadians made it down here to destroy my culture.
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Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Monoriu

I still can't believe that clothing, of all things, can become an election issue  :lol:

crazy canuck

Quote from: crazy canuck on October 16, 2015, 04:00:05 PM
Here is the last projection update before the weekend.  The liberals have continued their surge in support.  They are now up to a 74% chance of getting the most seats and there is now an 11% chance of obtaining a majority.   

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/globe-election-forecast-2015/article25377958/

Another projection updated today.  Liberal chance to get most seats now 80%.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/globe-election-forecast-2015/article25377958/?service=mobile

HVC

Quote from: Valmy on October 17, 2015, 04:58:23 PM
So I was out at the fall festival in Marble Falls today and all the major ethnic groups of Texas (well except Native Americans because well...) were there and there were some ladies wearing the Niqab. I wondered how those damn Canadians made it down here to destroy my culture.
too far south. Probably ninjas.
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Rex Francorum

Not that I like that much Harper but Trudeau, the next prime minister... Oh my.
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Josephus

One more day to go. We'll see what happens. All polls indicate a Liberal minority, but polls have been notoriously wrong in several elections lately--so anything can still happen.
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Many of the Postmedia papers today:



viper37

Yeah, by taking the hard line against Quebec and promoting the abolition of the dual school system in provinces, Trudeau has gained momentum in Canada, and he's now seen as credible replacement to Harper who speaks French too often.
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crazy canuck

Wow, what a complete mischaracterization.  Is that what the separatist media in Quebec is saying?  Or is that just your interpretation?

Jacob

Quote from: viper37 on October 18, 2015, 02:56:58 PM
Yeah, by taking the hard line against Quebec and promoting the abolition of the dual school system in provinces, Trudeau has gained momentum in Canada, and he's now seen as credible replacement to Harper who speaks French too often.

Trudeau's stance on Quebec has had zero play out here. No one cares.

Whatever has driven it in these parts, it has not been whatever his policy is on Quebec - in fact, I doubt most people even know what it is.