[Canada] Canadian Politics Redux

[Josephus]

Was disappointed with Mulcair overall, he sounded and looked like that professor in your universtiy classes who always made you doze off, halfway though his slideshow.
Trudeau looked stilted and well-rehearsed.
Green was Green, ultimately I wasn't paying attention to her.

I reluctantly am forced to admit that Harper did well. Stuck to his guns, defended his policies well. 

I did like that Trudeau used a Beatles reference. "number nine, number nine..." 

[PRC]

A reptilian .gif from the debate:

[viper37]

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"Would you want to play curling?"

[viper37]

Mulcair is done.  His MPs will hang him high
Thomas Mulcair Sang Praises For Margaret Thatcher's Right-Wing Politics In 2001

He complained that Quebecers were the most taxed in North America, that they had little money left in their pockets to buy a computer or connect to the Internet. He criticized the PQ for wanting its departments and agencies to have tentacle-like reaches into the private market and complained that "people had to wait for corporate welfare cheques before investing" in the province.

"In Quebec, the government is so omnipresent and plays in so many sandboxes at the same time that we can no longer speak of a free market," he said in the speech.

"A government should never have the pretension of being able to replace the free market. It does not work. It didn't work in England. Up until the time of Margaret Thatcher, that is what they tried, the government had its nose in everything," Mulcair said. "Interventionism is a failure.... The best way for a government to create riches is to let the free market thrive and get off the backs of businessmen and women."

[Syt]

[Malthus]

He'd have my vote. 

[Grallon]

  Terrible choice of marketing ads on the Liberals' part - that black and dark red background has been an object of mockery since they were first seen.  Many of them have been defaced or 'creatively edited'

http://globalnews.ca/news/2171984/liberal-campaign-posters-creepy-or-unique/



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[Syt]

Besides it looking like the cover of a news magazine I don't find the design to be particularly mockworthy.

[Grallon]

Besides it looking like the cover of a news magazine I don't find the design to be particularly mockworthy.

Because it's creepy and suggest horror flicks people have been making those photoshoped jokes online.  More importantly it associates the Liberals with a) creeps b) ridicule - never a good mix when you wish to win the electorate's favor.

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Incidentally I predict a minority NDP government.  It will be interesting to see a) how much the Conservatives will lose b) how much the Liberals will gain and c) whether or not the Bloc will resurface as a strong party in Quebec - or if this election will be the last straw for them.



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[Barrister]

Incidentally I predict a minority NDP government.  It will be interesting to see a) how much the Conservatives will lose b) how much the Liberals will gain and c) whether or not the Bloc will resurface as a strong party in Quebec - or if this election will be the last straw for them.

An NDP government, minority or majority, will have to rely heavily on Quebec seats, so no, an NDP minority would mean disaster for the BQ.

[Grallon]

An NDP government, minority or majority, will have to rely heavily on Quebec seats, so no, an NDP minority would mean disaster for the BQ.

I think you underestimate how deep the Harper fatigue goes, and not only in Quebec.  Alberta will no doubt cling to the PCC but I wouldn't be surprised to see several ridings in Ontario flip over to the NDP.  As for the Bloc, nobody is expecting them to return to the years where they were getting 45-55 seats - simply doubling their last score would be a major achievement.


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[Barrister]

An NDP government, minority or majority, will have to rely heavily on Quebec seats, so no, an NDP minority would mean disaster for the BQ.

I think you underestimate how deep the Harper fatigue goes, and not only in Quebec.  Alberta will no doubt cling to the PCC but I wouldn't be surprised to see several ridings in Ontario flip over to the NDP.  As for the Bloc, nobody is expecting them to return to the years where they were getting 45-55 seats - simply doubling their last score would be a major achievement.

But in order for the NDP to win they need to build on their seat totals.  BUIlding on those totals while simultaneously losing seats in Quebec is almost certainly impossible.

[viper37]

You can see the polls so far:
http://www.cbc.ca/news2/interactives/poll-tracker/2015/index.html

[Barrister]

You can see the polls so far:
http://www.cbc.ca/news2/interactives/poll-tracker/2015/index.html

I learned my lesson - I'm not saying the NDP can't or won't win.   

All I'm saying is that it is impossible for both the NDP and the BQ to do well at the same time.  They are competing for the same voters in Quebec.

And your link suggests the BQ will, at present, get zero seats.

[Valmy]

The Bloc cannot compete with a left wing party that might win the whole thing.

I never realized how dominant Ontario was in Canadian politics.