[Canada] Canadian Politics Redux

[Josephus]

So I guess we won't be seeing any real senate reform in our lifetime.

[viper37]

Depends if the Cons want to do the right thing or if they're scared.

They have the chance to build a new Canada and eliminate the seperatist threat in Quebec forever.  I'd say also insuring their eternal victory in Alberta, but that's already a given, so no gains there.

[crazy canuck]

Depends if the Cons want to do the right thing or if they're scared.

They have the chance to build a new Canada and eliminate the seperatist threat in Quebec forever.  I'd say also insuring their eternal victory in Alberta, but that's already a given, so no gains there.

You are going to have to share with us what "the right thing" is. 

[viper37]

Depends if the Cons want to do the right thing or if they're scared.

They have the chance to build a new Canada and eliminate the seperatist threat in Quebec forever.  I'd say also insuring their eternal victory in Alberta, but that's already a given, so no gains there.

You are going to have to share with us what "the right thing" is. 

I would waste my time.  You think the Constitution is perfectly adequate and it is not a problem if it applies to a province who has never signed it.

[Valmy]

Huh only 14 states ever ratified the Constitution.

[crazy canuck]

Depends if the Cons want to do the right thing or if they're scared.

They have the chance to build a new Canada and eliminate the seperatist threat in Quebec forever.  I'd say also insuring their eternal victory in Alberta, but that's already a given, so no gains there.

You are going to have to share with us what "the right thing" is. 

I would waste my time.  You think the Constitution is perfectly adequate and it is not a problem if it applies to a province who has never signed it.

You wont tell me what you think but you are perfectly happy telling me what I think.  Wonderful.

[Grey Fox]

In simple terms.

The Canadian Consitution is fucking Quebec up, if you want to fix other parts of it and want to discuss it with Quebec you need to also address this.

I don't personnaly thinks that it does, it's just built up resentment over Daddy Trudeau. We should move on & sign the damn thing.

[crazy canuck]

In simple terms.

The Canadian Consitution is fucking Quebec up, if you want to fix other parts of it and want to discuss it with Quebec you need to also address this.

Ok, and what is the "right thing" that needs to be done.

[Grey Fox]

For Viper? That I really don't know.

For Lévesques back in '82, was give Quebec a veto vote inshrine into the constitution.

[crazy canuck]

For Viper? That I really don't know.

For Lévesques back in '82, was give Quebec a veto vote inshrine into the constitution.

I still dont know how that provides the obvious solution for anyone.  It just means the Constitution never changes because there is no way all provinces are ever going to agree on anything.

[Jacob]

I would waste my time.  You think the Constitution is perfectly adequate and it is not a problem if it applies to a province who has never signed it.

It's extremely unlikely that we'll be able to support doing the right thing regarding the Constitution if you won't even tell us what it is.

I mean, maybe you're right and we'll disagree with you whether it's the right thing or not, but the odds are probably still better if you let us know what you think.

[Grey Fox]

For Viper? That I really don't know.

For Lévesques back in '82, was give Quebec a veto vote inshrine into the constitution.

I still dont know how that provides the obvious solution for anyone.  It just means the Constitution never changes because there is no way all provinces are ever going to agree on anything.

We just have more hindsight since '82. Lévesque didn't know that 7+50% was enough to basically stop any possible change.

[crazy canuck]

For Viper? That I really don't know.

For Lévesques back in '82, was give Quebec a veto vote inshrine into the constitution.

I still dont know how that provides the obvious solution for anyone.  It just means the Constitution never changes because there is no way all provinces are ever going to agree on anything.

We just have more hindsight since '82. Lévesque didn't know that 7+50% was enough to basically stop any possible change.

True

[viper37]

Huh only 14 states ever ratified the Constitution.

They all agreed to it by joining the Union.

[Barrister]

Huh only 14 states ever ratified the Constitution.

They all agreed to it by joining the Union.

Well surely Quebec consented to the terms of the constitution when it voted against sovereignty in 1995 though?