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Started by Josephus, March 22, 2011, 09:27:34 PM

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HVC

Quote from: Zoupa on January 26, 2026, 11:00:20 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on January 26, 2026, 11:12:04 AM
Quote from: Jacob on January 25, 2026, 11:49:08 PMYou're the one from the country with government thugs executing people in the street.

It's a bit rich to castigate other people for what you imagine they'd do one day, when your people is actually doing it right now.

Then perhaps you should heed what I say  since I know what fascists look like, and what they talk about.

Maybe you should worry about the current situation in your country rather than a highly improbably hypothetical situation in another country?

But he has to fight against the true evil, white liberals at home and abroad.
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

Razgovory

Quote from: Zoupa on January 26, 2026, 11:00:20 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on January 26, 2026, 11:12:04 AM
Quote from: Jacob on January 25, 2026, 11:49:08 PMYou're the one from the country with government thugs executing people in the street.

It's a bit rich to castigate other people for what you imagine they'd do one day, when your people is actually doing it right now.

Then perhaps you should heed what I say  since I know what fascists look like, and what they talk about.

Maybe you should worry about the current situation in your country rather than a highly improbably hypothetical situation in another country?
I thought you were the guys worried that the US was going to invade.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

HVC

Apparently there's new federal auto strategy so Ford likes Carney again
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

Jacob

Quote from: HVC on January 26, 2026, 11:45:55 PMApparently there's new federal auto strategy so Ford likes Carney again

That's... good?

Razgovory

Quote from: Jacob on January 26, 2026, 11:38:40 PMI think it's more likely that you will turn into a fascist, Raz, then Zoupa, Viper, or Grey Fox.
Yeah, I'm sure you do.  I think you might have a blind spot when it comes to certain types of Nationalists.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

HVC

Quote from: Jacob on January 26, 2026, 11:46:40 PM
Quote from: HVC on January 26, 2026, 11:45:55 PMApparently there's new federal auto strategy so Ford likes Carney again

That's... good?

Good in that a united front without infighting is good I think, but I don't know what the plan is so can't comment on that.
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

Razgovory

Quote from: HVC on January 26, 2026, 11:40:53 PMBut he has to fight against the true evil, white liberals at home and abroad.

Quote from: HVC on January 15, 2026, 02:02:49 PM
Quote from: Valmy on January 15, 2026, 01:22:26 PMJews are both a religious group and an ethnic group so I don't think comparing them to other ethnic based groups is wrong. Comparing them to Indians seems reasonable.

It is not like not being religious makes one a non-Jew.

Its just a dishonest way to try to give more emphasis to their point by cherry picking a subcategory that reflects their views . Swedes are the most hated amongst blonde people in canada. OMG stop the canadians from discrimianting against the swedish.

Not to say Jewish people aren't discriminated against, or hated,  of course they are. It just one of many red flags that would lead a reasonable person to disregard the opinion of this author
Quote from: Razgovory on January 15, 2026, 09:13:52 PMI think that would be covered in Muslims.
https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/250722/t006a-eng.htm

In 2024

920 anti-Jewish incidents.

229 anti-Muslim incidents.

658 over Sexual orientation.

Incidents over race in 2024

873 anti-Black  That's the highest one.

321 anti-South Asian

Only 59 against First Nations.  I'm surprised by that.

So, Muslims + South Asians is still fewer than Jews...  Now I can't tell if "Indians" are in fact hated more, but the people who don't care for Jews are certainly more active about it.  Or is the national statistical office a part of the Alt-Right now?



Were you going to get back to me on this?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

HVC

#24397
Sure my zealous obsessive friend. I said hated. Not attacked. Ask the average Canadian what they think about jews and you'll get at worst a meh. Ask what they think about Indians and you'll get vitriol at a much higher rate. Are there outliers and violent attacks against jew? Sure, but I never contested that. Go on your favourite infomation site, Facebook, and see all the Canadians complaining about Indians. If you need help I'll give you a key word, look up Tim Hortons. See all the enjoyment you can get from reading other hate groups, not just anti Muslim ones. Maybe you can grow a dislike of Indians too. Expand your hoobbies, it's good for the soul.
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

Razgovory

Quote from: HVC on Today at 12:00:15 AMSure my zealous obsessive friend. I said hated. Not attacked. Ask the average Canadian what they think about jews and you'll get at worst a meh. Ask what they think about Indians and you'll get vitriol at a much higher rate. Are there outliers and violent attacks against jew? Sure, but I never contested that. Go on your favourite infomation site, Facebook, and see all the Canadians complaining about Indians. If you need help I'll give you a key word, look up Tim Hortons. See all the enjoyment you can get from reading other hate groups, not just anti Muslim ones. Maybe you can grow a dislike of Indians too. Expand your hoobbies, it's good for the soul.

We can't measure hate or vitriol very well, but we can measure hate crimes.  And Jews topped the list on Hate crimes, not just as a subcategory involving religion, but overall.   And the article I posted was about hate crimes.  It's clear you didn't know this about this, so perhaps you need to look after different information sites.  Or, and I'm getting this very distinct impression, is this not the kind of racism/intolerance/fascism people in Canada, or at least on Canadians on this board, or interested in standing up against?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

HVC

Quote from: Razgovory on Today at 12:15:03 AMOr, and I'm getting this very distinct impression, is this not the kind of racism/intolerance/fascism people in Canada, or at least on Canadians on this board, or interested in standing up against?

If that's what you need to believe to go to bed happy then go for it :)

But I do recommend looking up Canadian hate of Indians on Facebook. I really do believe it's right up your alley.
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

Razgovory

Quote from: HVC on Today at 12:19:10 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on Today at 12:15:03 AMOr, and I'm getting this very distinct impression, is this not the kind of racism/intolerance/fascism people in Canada, or at least on Canadians on this board, or interested in standing up against?

If that's what you need to believe to go to bed happy then go for it :)

But I do recommend looking up Canadian hate of Indians on Facebook. I really do believe it's right up your alley.
Why? I have nothing against Indians.  I asked an Indian chick out once.  She said no, but beyond that nothing.  I have seen a little anti-Indian hate on Facebook, but it was only recently and it was among far-right guys angry at that Ramaswamy guy.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Zoupa

I think I sorta get Raz. If my countrymen had elected fascists into power, it might be easier to lash out at other western countries instead of doing anything about the situation at home. It's kinda the russian playbook of whataboutism. "Your (obviously better) country is also shitty! Look at this!".

crazy canuck

Quote from: Jacob on January 26, 2026, 11:46:40 PM
Quote from: HVC on January 26, 2026, 11:45:55 PMApparently there's new federal auto strategy so Ford likes Carney again

That's... good?

For a minority Liberal government it's not good, it's great.
Awarded 17 Zoupa points

In several surveys, the overwhelming first choice for what makes Canada unique is multiculturalism. This, in a world collapsing into stupid, impoverishing hatreds, is the distinctly Canadian national project.

Valmy

Quote from: Zoupa on Today at 03:01:48 AMI think I sorta get Raz. If my countrymen had elected fascists into power, it might be easier to lash out at other western countries instead of doing anything about the situation at home. It's kinda the russian playbook of whataboutism. "Your (obviously better) country is also shitty! Look at this!".

Well maybe but he has a pretty consistent track record of feeling this way about Quebec during the whole history of this site.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Grey Fox

I chack it to his dislike for nationalism and he found out the Duplessis government was pretty anti-jewish.
Getting ready to make IEDs against American Occupation Forces.

"But I didn't vote for him"; they cried.