News:

And we're back!

Main Menu

[Canada] Canadian Politics Redux

Started by Josephus, March 22, 2011, 09:27:34 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

viper37

751 First Nations unmarked graves found in Saskatchewan.  I wasn't expecting so many in one place.
https://globalnews.ca/news/7977208/marieval-residential-school-unmarked-graves/

Too bad their registers seems mostly secret, for now, at least.  It might help understand how they lived and how they died more precisely.
I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

Barrister

Quote from: viper37 on June 24, 2021, 11:46:46 AM
751 First Nations unmarked graves found in Saskatchewan.  I wasn't expecting so many in one place.
https://globalnews.ca/news/7977208/marieval-residential-school-unmarked-graves/

Too bad their registers seems mostly secret, for now, at least.  It might help understand how they lived and how they died more precisely.

The records are not secret.  I once spent part of a summer going through microfices at the Manitoba Archives for residential schools in that province.

Now most records were destroyed decades ago, but those that exist are publicly available.  At least from the government side - I understand the RCC has not turned over its residential school archives.

And we generally know how those kids died - from communicable diseases (#1 killer was TB).  The schools were cheaply built with very poor air circulation.  There were some suicides and accidental deaths as well.
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

Malthus

Quote from: viper37 on June 23, 2021, 05:47:11 PM
Quote from: Barrister on June 23, 2021, 04:53:03 PM
Nobody here is blaming Quebec.  You're the one who keeps bringing Quebec up.
CC explicitely said so.  A position defended by all english Canadian medias.

"... one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject" (Winston Churchill).
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane—Marcus Aurelius

viper37

Quote from: Barrister on June 24, 2021, 11:53:16 AM
Quote from: viper37 on June 24, 2021, 11:46:46 AM
751 First Nations unmarked graves found in Saskatchewan.  I wasn't expecting so many in one place.
https://globalnews.ca/news/7977208/marieval-residential-school-unmarked-graves/

Too bad their registers seems mostly secret, for now, at least.  It might help understand how they lived and how they died more precisely.

The records are not secret.  I once spent part of a summer going through microfices at the Manitoba Archives for residential schools in that province.

I thought I read the religious community for the Kamloops one wasn't cooperating and wasn't releasing all records of those who attended the institution?

Knowing globally how life was isn't the same as knowing specifically how individual X died.  This is what I meant.
I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

crazy canuck

Quote from: viper37 on June 23, 2021, 05:47:11 PM
Quote from: Barrister on June 23, 2021, 04:53:03 PM
Nobody here is blaming Quebec.  You're the one who keeps bringing Quebec up.
CC explicitely said so.  A position defended by all english Canadian medias.

I explicitly said Islamophobia is everywhere in Canada and it fair game to ask the PM about the hypocrisy of condemning it in Ontario while standing mute to Islamophobic aspects of legislation in Quebec.

Sadly we have another example - two sisters, whose family left Quebec because of the Islamophobia they experienced there were attacked in Alberta by a knife wielding man yelling slurs about their religion.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/women-wearing-hijabs-attacked-st-albert-1.6078720


crazy canuck

Quote from: viper37 on June 24, 2021, 09:06:21 PM
Quote from: Barrister on June 24, 2021, 11:53:16 AM
Quote from: viper37 on June 24, 2021, 11:46:46 AM
751 First Nations unmarked graves found in Saskatchewan.  I wasn't expecting so many in one place.
https://globalnews.ca/news/7977208/marieval-residential-school-unmarked-graves/

Too bad their registers seems mostly secret, for now, at least.  It might help understand how they lived and how they died more precisely.

The records are not secret.  I once spent part of a summer going through microfices at the Manitoba Archives for residential schools in that province.

I thought I read the religious community for the Kamloops one wasn't cooperating and wasn't releasing all records of those who attended the institution?

Knowing globally how life was isn't the same as knowing specifically how individual X died.  This is what I meant.

You remembered correctly, and in fact the Oblates have announced they will now release the documents.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/residential-school-records-missionary-of-oblates-of-mary-immaculate-1.6078260

Barrister

Quote from: viper37 on June 24, 2021, 09:06:21 PM
Quote from: Barrister on June 24, 2021, 11:53:16 AM
Quote from: viper37 on June 24, 2021, 11:46:46 AM
751 First Nations unmarked graves found in Saskatchewan.  I wasn't expecting so many in one place.
https://globalnews.ca/news/7977208/marieval-residential-school-unmarked-graves/

Too bad their registers seems mostly secret, for now, at least.  It might help understand how they lived and how they died more precisely.

The records are not secret.  I once spent part of a summer going through microfices at the Manitoba Archives for residential schools in that province.

I thought I read the religious community for the Kamloops one wasn't cooperating and wasn't releasing all records of those who attended the institution?

Knowing globally how life was isn't the same as knowing specifically how individual X died.  This is what I meant.

It's as if you deliberately cropped out the part of my answer where I said:

QuoteAt least from the government side - I understand the RCC has not turned over its residential school archives.

:hmm:
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

viper37

oh, sorry, I completely missed that part.
I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

Barrister

So a catholic church just burned down north of Edmonton in the town of Morinville.  Police say the fire is suspicious and will investigate.  Reporter talks to local parishioners who are sad.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/morinville-church-alberta-burned-fire-1.6085688

But what you will not see in the article is any mention of the 4 suspicious roman catholic church fires in BC within the last week.  Nor one in Nova Scotia.  Not to mention no reference to the ongoing newsworthiness of Canada's residential school system.

I really find the CBC to be infuriating sometimes.
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

crazy canuck

Quote from: Barrister on June 30, 2021, 02:08:32 PM
So a catholic church just burned down north of Edmonton in the town of Morinville.  Police say the fire is suspicious and will investigate.  Reporter talks to local parishioners who are sad.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/morinville-church-alberta-burned-fire-1.6085688

But what you will not see in the article is any mention of the 4 suspicious roman catholic church fires in BC within the last week.  Nor one in Nova Scotia.  Not to mention no reference to the ongoing newsworthiness of Canada's residential school system.

I really find the CBC to be infuriating sometimes.

In a CBC story covering the fire in question there is mention of the other 4 fires in BC and that they are also suspicious.  There is also a reference to possible residential school link.

Conservative CBC bashing is really off putting verging on the ridiculous.  When are you guys going to start calling it fake news?  :P


https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/siksika-church-fire-1.6083658



QuoteFour Catholic churches on First Nation lands in British Columbia have burned down this past week, and B.C. RCMP say they are treating those fires as suspicious.


QuoteThe Catholic church has been facing a reckoning following the discovery of hundreds of unmarked graves at former residential schools in Saskatchewan and B.C. There is no indication yet that the church fires are connected to that news.

On Saturday, a statue of Pope John Paul II outside of an Edmonton Catholic church was smeared with red-painted hand prints.

The provincial fire inspector and Gleichen RCMP are investigating the possible arson.




saskganesh

humans were created in their own image

Barrister

So Inuit leader Mary Simon is appointed as our next Governor-General, making her Canada's first Indigenous GG.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-gg-mary-simon-1.6091376

She seems solid at first blush, and of course Trudeau loves making the diversity pick.

The knock against her would seem to be that she can't really speak French at all fluently, which is ordinarily considered an essential element of a job which primarily consists of making speeches.  We'll see if that comes to haunt her and/or Trudeau.

Also, of course, it's another sign of a summer / fall election.
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

Grey Fox

We expect the usual non-Quebec pick to not actually speak french. It's nothing new. Pretty sure, it'll be fine.
Colonel Caliga is Awesome.

Barrister

Quote from: Grey Fox on July 06, 2021, 10:00:43 AM
We expect the usual non-Quebec pick to not actually speak french. It's nothing new. Pretty sure, it'll be fine.

I of course can not assess myself, but I read in a couple of places her level of French is even less than the usual anglophone "bilingual" candidates.
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

Grey Fox

Quote from: Barrister on July 06, 2021, 10:06:56 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on July 06, 2021, 10:00:43 AM
We expect the usual non-Quebec pick to not actually speak french. It's nothing new. Pretty sure, it'll be fine.

I of course can not assess myself, but I read in a couple of places her level of French is even less than the usual anglophone "bilingual" candidates.

Probably. But most of us don't speak Inuktitut so will probably don't hang it on her. She learn english from Federal school/college. Once again, the Federal government is the one dropping the ball.
Colonel Caliga is Awesome.