[Canada] Canadian Politics Redux

[Richard Hakluyt]

To totally maul a quote from Lady Bracknell in Wilde's The importance of being earnest :

To dress in blackface once may be regarded as a misfortune; to dress in blackface twice looks like carelessness; while to dress in blackface thrice looks like indisputable racism.

[grumbler]

See this is because he didn't know the original story. Aladdin was originally Chinese so he should have been in yellow face.

Aladdin was originally in a Chinese city, but he almost certainly wasn't supposed to be "Chinese" ethnically as shown by his name.  He was probably supposed to be Turkic. 

Not that this matters, of course.

[Grey Fox]

Lots of minority leaders coming in defending JT. The First Nations(those that talked atleast) still pissed off are not.

[crazy canuck]

Lots of minority leaders coming in defending JT. The First Nations(those that talked atleast) still pissed off are not.

Safe to say he lost that vote with JWR

[Rex Francorum]

According to Radio Canada, it is another two solitudes phenom. There is no outcry in Québec about Trudeau's blackface

[Barrister]

According to Radio Canada, it is another two solitudes phenom. There is no outcry in Québec about Trudeau's blackface

Which is perhaps not surprising in the province that overrode the charter of rights in order to prevent people from working in the public service who wore religious symbols.

[Razgovory]

Yeah, I'm not exactly surprised by that.

[Grey Fox]

It has no cultural reference. Journos are looking for it & so far best I've seen is saying Calixa Lavallee did it while performing in the USA (Blackface).  It's always a thing done by people in the USA.

Plus Quebec didn't have many black persons before the 70s.

[Valmy]

According to Radio Canada, it is another two solitudes phenom. There is no outcry in Québec about Trudeau's blackface

Which is perhaps not surprising in the province that overrode the charter of rights in order to prevent people from working in the public service who wore religious symbols.

I guess I don't see what one has to do with the other.

[Barrister]

According to Radio Canada, it is another two solitudes phenom. There is no outcry in Québec about Trudeau's blackface

Which is perhaps not surprising in the province that overrode the charter of rights in order to prevent people from working in the public service who wore religious symbols.

I guess I don't see what one has to do with the other.

Quebecers are a little bit racist, therefore they don't see anything wrong with Trudeau's display of racism.

[Valmy]

Quebecers are a little bit racist, therefore they don't see anything wrong with Trudeau's display of racism.

Religion is not a race but a set of ideas and beliefs

But got it.

[Oexmelin]

According to Radio Canada, it is another two solitudes phenom. There is no outcry in Québec about Trudeau's blackface

Which is perhaps not surprising in the province that overrode the charter of rights in order to prevent people from working in the public service who wore religious symbols.

Has nothing to do with it. See the point above about La Ligue des Noirs...

[Oexmelin]

Quebecers are a little bit racist, therefore they don't see anything wrong with Trudeau's display of racism.

One day, Quebec should receive the appropriate recognition for serving as the Other of English Canada, that allows it to point fingers and ignore its own racism.

[Malthus]

I don't think it has anything whatsoever to do with racism in Quebec. And I don't shy away from critiquing Quebec when I think it is deserved.

It is just an alien concept to most people there, as "blackface" wasn't a thing in Quebec.

It also wasn't much of a thing in English Canada, which is why I suspect the average English Canadian, just like their counterparts in Quebec, isn't all that outraged about it. Most people I've seen think it is funny rather than deeply outrageous, mostly because Trudeau himself makes such a display of being politically correct, so it is amusing to see him 'caught out'. You don't get a feeling of real anger about it. More like 'he really ought to have known better'.   

Journalists are another matter - the ones in English Canada are, I think, far more plugged in to the zeitgeist of journalism south of the border. So they make a big deal about it, because it would be more of a big deal in the US, which has more of a history of that sort of thing.

[Valmy]

It has a really freaky history over here. It is one of our first big pop culture things (might even be the first one...) and left a huge cultural legacy that is both really important but also shameful and embarrassing. So yeah we get pretty fucking triggered by it.

But I also thought we exported it to other English speaking places like Canada and the UK...

I know at least the UK had blackface acts to.