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Started by Josephus, March 22, 2011, 09:27:34 PM

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Jacob

Quote from: HVC on April 16, 2025, 11:30:37 AMNo idea who that is

This is a West Coast thing, not an English Canada thing - the Georgia Straight is a (fading) Vancouver institution.

Narduwar is a Vancouver radio personality (came up in college radio back in the day), who made his reputation with an irreverent (and sometimes annoying) interviewer schtick - but also from doing really good research into his subjects and asking good questions. He's interviewed a lot of big names in music over the years.

He hasn't really been on my radar for a decade+ (though I know he's out there), so he may have expanded his ambit beyond that.

In terms of the pros of doing the interview, I think they are:

1. Fairly high exposure on the West Coast, especially Vancouver

2. An opportunity to show he can handle curveballs, act like "a normal human", and have some fun/ doesn't ALWAYS take himself seriously.

From that, you can probably also deduce the negatives and risk-reward calculation from Poilievre's point of view. But acquitting themselves well is definitely useful for both Singh and Carney in the context of BC (and especially metro Vancouver).

Jacob

Quote from: crazy canuck on April 16, 2025, 12:02:40 PMI skimmed the article, and still have no idea who or what Nardwaur is.

You obviously haven't been engaged with Vancouver pop-culture since before the 90s then :lol:

HVC

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crazy canuck

Quote from: Jacob on April 16, 2025, 12:07:20 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 16, 2025, 12:02:40 PMI skimmed the article, and still have no idea who or what Nardwaur is.

You obviously haven't been engaged with Vancouver pop-culture since before the 90s then :lol:

Like the Straight has become, I suspect his audience is niche.

Back in the day the Straight was a must read publication.  It was the main way to learn what performances were coming to town, and it had some good articles.   I am a surprised it is still around.  I thought it died along with the rest of the special interest type publications.
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Quote from: Jacob on April 16, 2025, 12:06:11 PM2. An opportunity to show he can handle curveballs, act like "a normal human", and have some fun/ doesn't ALWAYS take himself seriously.
I understand now why he avoids him like the plague.  :P
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crazy canuck

There is an interesting story line developing in what had been a rock solid Conservative seat in the Fraser Valley - just east of Vancouver.

Mike De Jong has held the equivalent seat provincially for 30 years.  He went against the Provincial Leader's orders regarding staying out of federal politics, and endorsed PP in his leadership bid.  Then when the person who has held the federal seat (for about 20 years) announced his retirement, De Jong sought the nomination - and worked at it for about a year.

Two weeks before the nominating meeting, the Conservatives disqualified De Jong from running.  They gave no reasons for why they did so. De Jong would almost certainly have won the nomination. Now the incumbent who is retiring has publicly endorsed De Jong, who is running as an independent. 

De Jong will likely split the vote enough to allow the Liberals to take the riding.  Something that would have been unthinkable if the Conservatives had just nominated him as their candidate in the first place.
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Quote from: HVC on April 16, 2025, 11:30:37 AMNo idea who that is

Nardwuar, the Human Serviette.

That's actually about all I know about him.

I suspect there's a big of a generation gap going on here.  I understand (from reviews, but not from watching) that Nardwuar (born 1968) bonded with Carney (born 1965) over a love of punk music, and Mark Carney was able to name-check a bunch of punk bands.

Poilievre (born 1979) isn't of quite that same generation.  I have no idea what his musical tastes are, but I suspect they're somewhat different from Nardwuar.
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Jacob

Quote from: crazy canuck on April 16, 2025, 01:39:31 PMThere is an interesting story line developing in what had been a rock solid Conservative seat in the Fraser Valley - just east of Vancouver.

Mike De Jong has held the equivalent seat provincially for 30 years.  He went against the Provincial Leader's orders regarding staying out of federal politics, and endorsed PP in his leadership bid.  Then when the person who has held the federal seat (for about 20 years) announced his retirement, De Jong sought the nomination - and worked at it for about a year.

Two weeks before the nominating meeting, the Conservatives disqualified De Jong from running.  They gave no reasons for why they did so. De Jong would almost certainly have won the nomination. Now the incumbent who is retiring has publicly endorsed De Jong, who is running as an independent. 

De Jong will likely split the vote enough to allow the Liberals to take the riding.  Something that would have been unthinkable if the Conservatives had just nominated him as their candidate in the first place.

Another part - from what I've read - is that the Conservative candidate is an inexperienced 25-year-old (with rich parents, allegedly).

Jacob

Totally inconsequential in the big scheme of things, but this stuck in my craw as a British Columbian:
QuoteSpeaking to a pumped-up crowd at a warehouse in B.C.'s Interior, Conservative Party Leader Pierre Poilievre shared a joke.

"The Okanagan is the best part of Alberta," he quipped, laughing along with his supporters who were packed in to see him speak in the community of Penticton, about an hour's drive south of Kelowna, on April 5.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/kelowna-okanagan-kootenays-federal-election-carney-poilievre-1.7510027

crazy canuck

He will be talking to a lot of transplanted Albertans in that part of the Province, which is probably what he meant by the joke.

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Nardwuar has become a big deal in hip-hop interviews with his deep dive into the interviewees past and early years.  Check out some of his interviews on youtube with all the big names in hip-hop, they love him.

Zoupa

Quote from: Jacob on April 16, 2025, 03:14:40 PMTotally inconsequential in the big scheme of things, but this stuck in my craw as a British Columbian:
QuoteSpeaking to a pumped-up crowd at a warehouse in B.C.'s Interior, Conservative Party Leader Pierre Poilievre shared a joke.

"The Okanagan is the best part of Alberta," he quipped, laughing along with his supporters who were packed in to see him speak in the community of Penticton, about an hour's drive south of Kelowna, on April 5.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/kelowna-okanagan-kootenays-federal-election-carney-poilievre-1.7510027

Nobody in the Okanagan is from the Okanagan. Sure there are a lot of Alberta transplants, but it won't play well with anyone else.

crazy canuck

I don't know, we often joke about going to "little Alberta" when we talk about going to the Okanagan.
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Quote from: Zoupa on April 16, 2025, 04:11:46 PM
Quote from: Jacob on April 16, 2025, 03:14:40 PMTotally inconsequential in the big scheme of things, but this stuck in my craw as a British Columbian:
QuoteSpeaking to a pumped-up crowd at a warehouse in B.C.'s Interior, Conservative Party Leader Pierre Poilievre shared a joke.

"The Okanagan is the best part of Alberta," he quipped, laughing along with his supporters who were packed in to see him speak in the community of Penticton, about an hour's drive south of Kelowna, on April 5.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/kelowna-okanagan-kootenays-federal-election-carney-poilievre-1.7510027

Nobody in the Okanagan is from the Okanagan. Sure there are a lot of Alberta transplants, but it won't play well with anyone else.

A hell of a lot of Albertans aren't actually from Alberta. *cough*

Saskatchewan is the biggest source, but MB, BC, ON, Maritimes all well represented.

QC least of all, but even then I know a few transplants.
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Lots of transplant in Quebec from all over Canada.
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