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Started by Josephus, March 22, 2011, 09:27:34 PM

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viper37

Quote from: crazy canuck on April 10, 2025, 04:57:13 PMWhat I don't know is whether there is now sufficient demand for that kind of pipeline capacity.
I think we got our definite answer here:
American Shale Chief Tells Peers to Stop Drilling 'Right Away"

Not gonna happen at prices below 60$ a barrel.
I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

Bauer

Every time Daniel Smith opens her mouth makes me less likely to vote cons though I'll reserve my vote until I have a better idea of the two platforms.

I really don't understand Alberta politics.  They have right to be angry about the lack of progress on pipelines, but their complaints sound an awful like "me me me me" to me. No solutions or recognition of challenges to collaborate on. 

From what I've heard there is zero interest in the private sector to build pipelines these days so regardless of what either party says, I am not sure projects can be started any time soon.

Regardless, as a nation we have to have a transparent and speedy approval process to attract business investment and I don't think we've done nearly enough in that regard.


On the question of global warming,  I'm ok with dropping the carbon tax as I think it's largely been ineffective.  But like in the world of ESG investing, we have to have a framework of environmental responsibility in place.  ESG isn't about not investing in oil, but rather to engage to with companies to do better and have a plan.  Gov policy needs to be like that too, but don't think cons have ever offered a realistic one... which might be a deal breaker for me. 

Bauer

Also the other day I got an email from Pierre's team (I'm on both cons and lib email lists) with a link to a poll to allegedly inform his campaign.

Every question on the poll had two choices:  1) Pierre  Or 2) woke liberals

So their campaign intends to win over people like me who sit somewhere in between the parties, by making themselves look like idiots.

crazy canuck

Quote from: Bauer on April 10, 2025, 09:41:44 PMRegardless, as a nation we have to have a transparent and speedy approval process to attract business investment and I don't think we've done nearly enough in that regard.


On the question of global warming,  I'm ok with dropping the carbon tax as I think it's largely been ineffective.  But like in the world of ESG investing, we have to have a framework of environmental responsibility in place.  ESG isn't about not investing in oil, but rather to engage to with companies to do better and have a plan.

Agreed

viper37

Quote from: Bauer on April 10, 2025, 09:41:44 PMEvery time Daniel Smith opens her mouth makes me less likely to vote cons though I'll reserve my vote until I have a better idea of the two platforms.

I really don't understand Alberta politics.  They have right to be angry about the lack of progress on pipelines, but their complaints sound an awful like "me me me me" to me. No solutions or recognition of challenges to collaborate on. 

From what I've heard there is zero interest in the private sector to build pipelines these days so regardless of what either party says, I am not sure projects can be started any time soon.

Regardless, as a nation we have to have a transparent and speedy approval process to attract business investment and I don't think we've done nearly enough in that regard.


On the question of global warming,  I'm ok with dropping the carbon tax as I think it's largely been ineffective.  But like in the world of ESG investing, we have to have a framework of environmental responsibility in place.  ESG isn't about not investing in oil, but rather to engage to with companies to do better and have a plan.  Gov policy needs to be like that too, but don't think cons have ever offered a realistic one... which might be a deal breaker for me. 

Having two environmental studies wouldn't even be a real problem if they were done simultaneously.

For years, for any project depending on Federal rules is that the province must first make it's own study. That's 18-24 months for Quebec, just for the analys of the studies by a committee the public hearing by the parties involved, so in reality, that can be closer to 4-5 years (for large projects) from the moment a developper submit his demand to the Ministère de l'Environnement.

Then comes the Federal study who totally ignores what the province has done and restart the process from zero.

I am not certain I would trust a modern conservative govt to make an impartial environmental study, therefore, having only one Federal study makes me uneasy.

However, having both studies being made concurrently and exchanging information could speed up the process.

Public audience could be done jointly by the province and the federal govt where the project happens, in multiple cities.

You would insure that every project folloe strick regulations and is done correctly with a lesser chance of forgetting something and giving a win to opponents.
I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

crazy canuck

As of the 10th, according to CANADA 388 odds of Liberal majority 90%, liberal minority 10%.  Odds of Conservative minority 0%.

viper37

The race has tightened in the last few days.

The Conservative strategy of ignoring journalists is paying off.
I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

crazy canuck

Quote from: viper37 on April 11, 2025, 11:17:27 AMThe race has tightened in the last few days.

The Conservative strategy of ignoring journalists is paying off.

Like I said to the last person who said the race had tightened.  Tightened in the sense that it went from a 95% chance of a Liberal majority, to then an 87% chance and now back to a 90% chance.  But the Conservatives have only been at a 1 or 0 percent chance they will get the most seats during the election.

And I think Canadians can see the Conservative disrespect for media for what it is.

Grey Fox

It's all their disinfo on the Meta platforms.
Getting ready to make IEDs against American Occupation Forces.

"But I didn't vote for him"; they cried.

viper37

Quote from: crazy canuck on April 11, 2025, 11:39:11 AMAnd I think Canadians can see the Conservative disrespect for media for what it is.
As I heard on tv, this matters only to journalists.

People at home see the pre-digested 40 seconds clip and don't bother too much about the rest.

I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

PJL

Quote from: viper37 on April 11, 2025, 03:24:34 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 11, 2025, 11:39:11 AMAnd I think Canadians can see the Conservative disrespect for media for what it is.
As I heard on tv, this matters only to journalists.

People at home see the pre-digested 40 seconds clip and don't bother too much about the rest.



Sadly that's humanity in a nutshell.

Josephus

Quote from: crazy canuck on April 11, 2025, 07:01:18 AMAs of the 10th, according to CANADA 388 odds of Liberal majority 90%, liberal minority 10%.  Odds of Conservative minority 0%.

As of the 11th, it's 89 per cent and 11 per cent + a one percent chance of a Conservative win.

 :D
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