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Started by Josephus, March 22, 2011, 09:27:34 PM

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viper37

... And Smith is opposed to any heavy handed response to the US tariffs, saying it will provoke a unity crisis.

If we didn't before, now we know where the traitor lies. :)
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Barrister

Quote from: viper37 on January 13, 2025, 04:34:20 PM... And Smith is opposed to any heavy handed response to the US tariffs, saying it will provoke a unity crisis.

If we didn't before, now we know where the traitor lies. :)

If you look closely at what Smith said - she is opposed to export taxes or limits on exporting energy.

Because, not surprisingly, that would hammer one sector and one region of Canada.
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Grey Fox

It would hurt Quebec too, our Premier is also against using energy to retaliate.
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viper37

Quote from: Barrister on January 13, 2025, 05:12:54 PM
Quote from: viper37 on January 13, 2025, 04:34:20 PM... And Smith is opposed to any heavy handed response to the US tariffs, saying it will provoke a unity crisis.

If we didn't before, now we know where the traitor lies. :)

If you look closely at what Smith said - she is opposed to export taxes or limits on exporting energy.

Because, not surprisingly, that would hammer one sector and one region of Canada.
I don't think anything should be off the table for now.  We are at war, and sacrifices will be needed.

If Ukrainians had acted like that, their country would have fallen by now.
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If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

Barrister

Quote from: viper37 on January 13, 2025, 06:02:56 PM
Quote from: Barrister on January 13, 2025, 05:12:54 PM
Quote from: viper37 on January 13, 2025, 04:34:20 PM... And Smith is opposed to any heavy handed response to the US tariffs, saying it will provoke a unity crisis.

If we didn't before, now we know where the traitor lies. :)

If you look closely at what Smith said - she is opposed to export taxes or limits on exporting energy.

Because, not surprisingly, that would hammer one sector and one region of Canada.
I don't think anything should be off the table for now.  We are at war, and sacrifices will be needed.

If Ukrainians had acted like that, their country would have fallen by now.


Ukraine has continued to transit Russian gas across their territory up until this year (as in 2025) - almost three years after the full scale invasion, 10 ears after the initial annexation of Crimea.
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HVC

appeasing Russia didn't help them, and appeasing the US won't help us.
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viper37

Quote from: Barrister on January 13, 2025, 06:04:09 PM
Quote from: viper37 on January 13, 2025, 06:02:56 PM
Quote from: Barrister on January 13, 2025, 05:12:54 PM
Quote from: viper37 on January 13, 2025, 04:34:20 PM... And Smith is opposed to any heavy handed response to the US tariffs, saying it will provoke a unity crisis.

If we didn't before, now we know where the traitor lies. :)

If you look closely at what Smith said - she is opposed to export taxes or limits on exporting energy.

Because, not surprisingly, that would hammer one sector and one region of Canada.
I don't think anything should be off the table for now.  We are at war, and sacrifices will be needed.

If Ukrainians had acted like that, their country would have fallen by now.


Ukraine has continued to transit Russian gas across their territory up until this year (as in 2025) - almost three years after the full scale invasion, 10 ears after the initial annexation of Crimea.
They're not doing it for Russia.
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Barrister

Quote from: viper37 on January 13, 2025, 06:08:02 PMThey're not doing it for Russia.

Exactly.

I believe Ukraine still received some transit fees, plus of course they didn't want to hurt European allies who were dependent on Russian gas.

Now that calculus changed this year, but I don't know the exact details.  But it definitely wasn't appeasement.
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crazy canuck

Quote from: Grey Fox on January 13, 2025, 05:22:40 PMIt would hurt Quebec too, our Premier is also against using energy to retaliate.

It would also have a significant negative impact on BC.  Oil, gas and hydro would be impacted.

One fun fact is the major natural gas line that supplies Greater Vancouver dips through Washington State simply because of the local geography.  That would be a nightmare to figure out if our countries had a trade war over energy.  Not to mention how integrated BC electrical energy is within the American Grid on the West Coast. 

Grey Fox

What a shit show that's going to be.

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