Hungarian Politics

[Tamas]

And are you managing to meet this population growth with economic growth ie new jobs?
Unless I catch up with my German VERY quickly, your island may be my only chance for a decent life. 



BTW, A meeting started between Orban, Matolcsy (the finance minister), Fellegi (who is leading our delegation on the IMF negotiations), and Simor (central bank prez); about two hours ago.

Simor left it an hour ago

[Sheilbh]

We've not had the growth recently. But things will get better. I think London's still churning out jobs quicker than it can churn people.

[Martinus]

And are you managing to meet this population growth with economic growth ie new jobs?
Unless I catch up with my German VERY quickly, your island may be my only chance for a decent life. 



BTW, A meeting started between Orban, Matolcsy (the finance minister), Fellegi (who is leading our delegation on the IMF negotiations), and Simor (central bank prez); about two hours ago.

Simor left it an hour ago

Your government officials' names suggest they are Ferengi. That would explain a lot.

[Richard Hakluyt]

And are you managing to meet this population growth with economic growth ie new jobs?

We are having a recession, it is a bit crap atm, but the recession will go away.............it is different to what you fear is happening in Hungary.

[Tamas]

The IMF requirements have  been allegedly leaked.

Apparently, they want a sustainable budget. The nerves these imperialist jewish pigdogs have! 

[Valmy]

Apparently, they want a sustainable budget.

What?!  PEOPLE OF EUROPE RISE UP!

[The Brain]

The IMF requirements have  been allegedly leaked.

Apparently, they want a sustainable budget. The nerves these imperialist jewish pigdogs have! 

A sustainable budget? Why not a space elevator as well? If the peoples of Europe wanted sustainable budgets they would have voted for them decades ago.

[Sheilbh]

Apparently, they want a sustainable budget.

What?!  PEOPLE OF EUROPE RISE UP!

Hey, don't associate us with this crazy

Interesting perspective by BBC Business Correspondent.  Hungary as symptom of Eurozone crisis:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-16439644

I read that the yields on Austrian banks are reaching new highs because of fears about their loans to Hungary so it's cycling back.

[Valmy]

As Sheilbh says 

The total fertility rate has been rising for some years, reaching 2.00 in 2009 according to this source http://www.google.co.uk/publicdata/explore?ds=d5bncppjof8f9_&met_y=sp_dyn_tfrt_in&idim=country:GBR&dl=en&hl=en&q=uk+total+fertility+rate , and is continuing to rise. There is also considerable net immigration of about 250,000 per annum. Meanwhile, being British  , we are failing to build many new houses , only 100k housing starts a year IIRC.

But you Brits move abroad at huge rates.  You can just start new colonies someplace.  Like in Germany to live in all the  houses vacated by the Master Race Baby Bust.

[Sheilbh]

But you Brits move abroad at huge rates.  You can just start new colonies someplace.  Like in Germany to live in all the  houses vacated by the Master Race Baby Bust.

We're waiting for the bits of Greece, Spain and Italy that we haven't already colonised (like ants) to empty out

Given Italian demographics I imagine Tuscany will just be a sunny bit of the home counties in a few years

[Syt]

Well, I'm done reading the P'dox thread. Consensus seems to be that things aren't as bad as they seem, or at least not worse than in other countries, and that the elected government have the mandate to do as they see fit. All the bad press is left wing fearmongering by people with questionable agendas. The Orban government is doing what the law allows them to, and are wonderful democrats. Also, the Hungarians can vote them out, after all, if things are really so bad.

I presume the posters will declare peace in our time soon.

[Valmy]

Also, the Hungarians can vote them out, after all, if things are really so bad.

That is an interesting arguement: their policies must be good because they are still in power.

[Syt]

Two rather good articles from the Economist's tomorrow edition:

To Viktor too many spoils - Europe could do more to stop Hungary's erosion of democratic norms

The long march of Fidesz Both inside and outside Hungary, alarm is growing over the ruling party's steps to entrench its powers

[Sheilbh]

Well that is basically British democracy. But we have a very independent judiciary, an aggressive media and no written constitution to casually replace.

[Tamas]

Well, I'm done reading the P'dox thread. Consensus seems to be that things aren't as bad as they seem, or at least not worse than in other countries, and that the elected government have the mandate to do as they see fit. All the bad press is left wing fearmongering by people with questionable agendas. The Orban government is doing what the law allows them to, and are wonderful democrats. Also, the Hungarians can vote them out, after all, if things are really so bad.

I presume the posters will declare peace in our time soon.