TV/Movies Megathread

[celedhring]

The Voyage Home was my favorite Star Trek movie when I was a kid. 

[frunk]

ST IV is a lot better than any of the odd numbered Treks.

[Eddie Teach]

Yeah, and you know why?  Because it's the sell-out of the franchise.  It's the fucking Star Trek IV of the whole goddamned lot.   

Isn't the rule of Star Trek movies even numbers good, odd numbers bad? 

[katmai]

For original cast I'd agree yes.

[frunk]

Well, if you get into Next Gen only First Contact is worth watching.

[celedhring]

Well, to me it's more a case of diminishing returns as the series progresses:

1) Wrath of Khan
3) First one
4) Whales one
5) Search for Spock
6) Undiscovered Country
7) Final Frontier
8) Generations

Some of those I haven't seen in 10+ years though.

[Queequeg]

IDK, First Contact was a lot better than all but Khan I think.

[celedhring]

Well, I only listed original cast in my list. I'd put First Contact in the middle of the pack. It's entertaining, but it lacks some of the big ideas of the classic films. It feels like a, good, long, TNG episode.

[Sheilbh]

Anyway the reboot's better.



Awaiting a megaton of Seedy assburger millenial hate 

[dps]

Well, to me it's more a case of diminishing returns as the series progresses:

1) Wrath of Khan
3) First one
4) Whales one
5) Search for Spock
6) Undiscovered Country
7) Final Frontier
8) Generations

Some of those I haven't seen in 10+ years though.

Hm.  Seven movies, ranked from #1 to #8. 

And I really can't see ranking TMP that highly.  It had ideas, and the special effects were very, very good for it's time.  Unfortunately, those ideas had already been explored (though obviously not at that length) in episodes of TOS, and the effects are all too often just loooonnng static or nearly static shots--there's a reason that it is sometimes snarkily called "Star Trek:  The Motionless Picture".

[Admiral Yi]

I think the part of TMP when the Enterprise sails through that alien whatever stuff takes up like 50 minutes of screen time.

[Eddie Teach]

Anyway the reboot's better.

The Star Wars prequels are better than anything Star Trek-related. 

[frunk]

Anyway the reboot's better.



Awaiting a megaton of Seedy assburger millenial hate 

I'd be fine with taking on the role of Seedy on this one.  Reboot, ugh.

[The Brain]

TMP has a sex offender falling in love with a probe. That has to be worth something.

[celedhring]

Well, to me it's more a case of diminishing returns as the series progresses:

1) Wrath of Khan
3) First one
4) Whales one
5) Search for Spock
6) Undiscovered Country
7) Final Frontier
8) Generations

Some of those I haven't seen in 10+ years though.

Hm.  Seven movies, ranked from #1 to #8. 

And I really can't see ranking TMP that highly.  It had ideas, and the special effects were very, very good for it's time.  Unfortunately, those ideas had already been explored (though obviously not at that length) in episodes of TOS, and the effects are all too often just loooonnng static or nearly static shots--there's a reason that it is sometimes snarkily called "Star Trek:  The Motionless Picture".

Actually I skipped "2" as a bit of a joke, to show how far ahead of the pack I think Wrath of Khan is. It's a damn great adventure movie.

Anyway, I sort of like TMP. Yes, it's pretty damn plodding in places, but I love the whole third act, it has some pretty cool ideas, and bald Persis Khambatta.