TV/Movies Megathread

[dps]

Anyway the reboot's better.

The Star Wars prequels are better than anything Star Trek-related. 

Well, if the goal is inducing rage in the fanbase, yeah.

[The Brain]

Anyway the reboot's better.

The Star Wars prequels are better than anything Star Trek-related. 

Well, if the goal is inducing rage in the fanbase, yeah.

Rage rage?

[dps]

Well, to me it's more a case of diminishing returns as the series progresses:

1) Wrath of Khan
3) First one
4) Whales one
5) Search for Spock
6) Undiscovered Country
7) Final Frontier
8) Generations

Some of those I haven't seen in 10+ years though.

Hm.  Seven movies, ranked from #1 to #8. 

And I really can't see ranking TMP that highly.  It had ideas, and the special effects were very, very good for it's time.  Unfortunately, those ideas had already been explored (though obviously not at that length) in episodes of TOS, and the effects are all too often just loooonnng static or nearly static shots--there's a reason that it is sometimes snarkily called "Star Trek:  The Motionless Picture".

Actually I skipped "2" as a bit of a joke, to show how far ahead of the pack I think Wrath of Khan is. It's a damn great adventure movie.

Anyway, I sort of like TMP. Yes, it's pretty damn plodding in places, but I love the whole third act, it has some pretty cool ideas, and bald Persis Khambatta.

I guess it just depends on how tolerant one is of the plodding parts. (Though I didn't find Khambatta all that hot, with or without hair.)

[CountDeMoney]

1) Wrath of Khan
3) First one
4) Whales one
5) Search for Spock
6) Undiscovered Country
7) Final Frontier
8) Generations

And yet you wonder why you wind up in the Axis.  YOURE EVEN IN THE FUCKING BUSINESS, MAN

[Eddie Teach]

Maybe he just really hated Star Trek: Generations.

[celedhring]

1) Wrath of Khan
3) First one
4) Whales one
5) Search for Spock
6) Undiscovered Country
7) Final Frontier
8) Generations

And yet you wonder why you wind up in the Axis.  YOURE EVEN IN THE FUCKING BUSINESS, MAN

Final Frontier is terrible, nobody can possibly argue the opposite. Not even you.

[CountDeMoney]

Final Frontier is terrible, nobody can possibly argue the opposite. Not even you.

You're kind of missing the point of my criticism there, Hollywood.  There is no grander, wet steamer of a lawn turd in the franchise, and does not merit #7. Even if #7 is interchangeable, at least "Generations" had Malcolm McDowell sleepwalking through his lines. 

[celedhring]

Final Frontier is terrible, nobody can possibly argue the opposite. Not even you.

You're kind of missing the point of my criticism there, Hollywood.  There is no grander, wet steamer of a lawn turd in the franchise, and does not merit #7. Even if #7 is interchangeable, at least "Generations" had Malcolm McDowell sleepwalking through his lines.

Meh, I don't think there's much between the two. I blame Generations in setting the tone for the remainder of the franchise as elongated, dehumanized, mediocre TNG episodes. 

[frunk]

Final Frontier is terrible, nobody can possibly argue the opposite. Not even you.

You're kind of missing the point of my criticism there, Hollywood.  There is no grander, wet steamer of a lawn turd in the franchise, and does not merit #7. Even if #7 is interchangeable, at least "Generations" had Malcolm McDowell sleepwalking through his lines.

I would say that most of Next Generation and the reboots are worse.  Final Frontier was fun strictly because these old actors were hitting their marks again, and it was good to see them.  In the Next Gen movies even Patrick Stewart couldn't avoid looking bored.  The less said about the reboots, particularly the first one, the better. 

[dps]

The reboots are STINO--Star Trek in name only.  Too bad there's not a word starting with a "k" between "name" and "only" or it would be a perfect fit.

[Admiral Yi]

Final Frontier was terrible.

[Syt]

Star Trek IV is one of the few "let's go back into (then contemporary) time for some fish out of water shenanigans" movies I can stomach. Also, it gives all characters a chance to shine. Something e.g. ST5 completely failed at, bordering on character assassination for some characters (Kelley and Nimoy threatened to walk out when their characters were originally set to turn on Kirk, too).

[11B4V]

WoK is the first best OC Star Trek movie. The only one worth being rated. All others were a joke and just plain shit.

Space Seed + WoK= Star Trek at it's best

[Scipio]

Definitive ranking of the first set of Star Trek films (pre-reboot):

1) Khan
2) Undiscovered Country
3) Voyage Home
4) Search for Spock
5) First Contact
6) Generations
7) Trek
8) Insurrection
9) Nemesis
10) Final Frontier

[Ideologue]

1)SFS
2)TWOK
3)TVH
4)TMP
5)TUC
6)Trek '09
7)TFF
8)GEN
9)FC
10)NEM
11/12)INS/STID (one is abominably boring, the other is abominably stupid and lazy, I can't tell which one's worse)

Anyway, all the TNG movies sucked.  The only good one was All Good Things.  Now, if that counted, it might be like number 3 or 4, but it doesn't.