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[celedhring]

Lol poor idris Elba.

By the time they got to decide on this, he became insufficiently progressive on account of being a male.

He's also a bit old, they want somebody that can play the part for a decade, and nowadays Bond films are too action-heavy for a 50-something.

[Duque de Bragança]

Lol poor idris Elba.

By the time they got to decide on this, he became insufficiently progressive on account of being a male.

He's also a bit old, they want somebody that can play the part for a decade, and nowadays Bond films are too action-heavy for a 50-something.

CGI action-heavy Bond film is no big deal for a 50-something. It's not like stuntsmen do not exist.
Roger Moore did a couple Bond movies when he was already in his mid-50s and that was more of a problem in the practical effects-era.
A View to a Kill at 58 might have been too much though. 

[The Larch]

Lol poor idris Elba.

By the time they got to decide on this, he became insufficiently progressive on account of being a male.

He's also a bit old, they want somebody that can play the part for a decade, and nowadays Bond films are too action-heavy for a 50-something.

CGI action-heavy Bond film is no big deal for a 50-something. It's not like stuntsmen do not exist.
Roger Moore did a couple Bond movies when he was already in his mid-50s and that was more of a problem in the practical effects-era.
A View to a Kill at 58 might have been too much though. 

Late Roger Moore movies were quite embarrassing to watch, he was clearly way too old to play the character. And the embarrassment was not just in the action scenes, whenever he had to flirt with the Bond Girl du jour the age gap was painful to watch.

[celedhring]

Yeah, at one point - particularly nowadays - those age gaps become a bit uncomfortable.

Also, it's not a problem of physically being able to shoot the scenes. Older actors appeal to older audiences, which are not the prime target for big budget action films. Only Tom Cruise pulls off being 50 and being an action star.

[The Larch]

Doing some quick math thanks to wiki, here are Bond's actors' ages throughout history:

- Connery played Bond from 32 (Dr. No) to 41 (Diamonds are forever), with an additional one at 53 (Never say never again).
- Lazenby was 30 in his only Bond movie (On her majesty's secret service).
- Roger Moore was 46 when he debuted as Bond (Live and let die) and 58 for his last one (A view to a kill).
- Timothy Dalton was 41 in his first movie (The living daylights) and 43 for his second one (Licence to kill).
- Pierce Brosnan was bond from 42 (Goldeneye) to 49 (Die another day).
- Daniel Craig started playing Bond at 38 (Casino Royale) and will be 52 when the 25th movie comes out.

I guess that Bond girls will be more or less all around 25 in every film. 

[Duque de Bragança]

Late Roger Moore movies were quite embarrassing to watch, he was clearly way too old to play the character. And the embarrassment was not just in the action scenes, whenever he had to flirt with the Bond Girls du jour the age gap was painful to watch.

Fixed!
Depends, sometimes the age gap was used for comical effect, and Moore was very good at eliciting laughs, unlike say, Daniel Craig.
Don't forget the age gap was not such a big thing back then.

PS: Honourary mention to David Niven, the oldest James Bond in Casino Royale (1967). 

[The Larch]

Late Roger Moore movies were quite embarrassing to watch, he was clearly way too old to play the character. And the embarrassment was not just in the action scenes, whenever he had to flirt with the Bond Girls du jour the age gap was painful to watch.

Fixed!
Depends, sometimes the age gap was used for comical effect, and Moore was very good at eliciting laughs, unlike say, Daniel Craig.
Don't forget the age gap was not such a big thing back then.

PS: Honourary mention to David Niven, the oldest James Bond in Casino Royale (1967). 

I have the feeling that the age gaps were not outrageous in the early films, Connery himself was relatively young as well, but in the late Roger Moore ones it was very noticeabley, and painfully so.

[Duque de Bragança]

I have the feeling that the age gaps were not outrageous in the early films, Connery himself was relatively young as well, but in the late Roger Moore ones it was very noticeabley, and painfully so.

Hard to argue with a feeling, but I always thought it was comical rather than painful. However, I can see why it would be painful with a bland and wooden actor such as Craig.
As for the age gap with Connery, I guess you either forgot or never watched Never Say Never again with Connery and a very young Kim Basinger. 

[Josephus]

I'm rewatching The Imitation Game on Netflix and there's a PG-13 warning about "historical smoking." 

Yeah that's a new thing Netflix got pressured into doing.

[Berkut]

I'm rewatching The Imitation Game on Netflix and there's a PG-13 warning about "historical smoking." 

Yeah that's a new thing Netflix got pressured into doing.

They fired an exec for less.

[Tonitrus]

I guess that Bond girls will be more or less all around 25 in every film. 

Pussy Galore (Goldfinger) was 5 years older than Bond. 

(at least, the actress is/was...they're both still alive I believe, so "is"  )

[The Larch]

I guess that Bond girls will be more or less all around 25 in every film. 

Pussy Galore (Goldfinger) was 5 years older than Bond. 

(at least, the actress is/was...they're both still alive I believe, so "is"  )

I was doing a big ass post checking on all that, and I had to leave it as a draft because I had to leave and intended to finish it later, and I also mentioned that. 

In the Lazenby one Bond is also younger than his love interest (Diana Rigg, IIRC).

[Savonarola]

Los Cronocrímenes (Timecrimes) (2007)

Héctor while sitting at home looks through his binoculars into the woods and sees a comely young woman exposing her breasts.  When his wife leaves the house he decides to go into the woods and "Investigate;" ( ).  His investigation leads him to the only possible conclusion: Time travel!

For a time travel movie; (and especially for a low budget time travel movie) this is well done.  It doesn't get bogged down in technobabble, overly concern itself with paradoxes, or come loaded with plot holes.  The plot is intricate, but easy to follow.

[dps]

Also, it's not a problem of physically being able to shoot the scenes. Older actors appeal to older audiences, which are not the prime target for big budget action films. Only Tom Cruise pulls off being 50 and being an action star.

Don't know where you get that idea.  Liam Neeson was 56 for the first Taken film, and 62 by 3.  Vin Diesel is 52 and still doing Fast and Furious flicks.  And they emptied the old folks home to cast the Expendables movies.

[Eddie Teach]

Neeson's action films are pretty low budget though. And The Expendables are all about nostalgia.