The Hungarian Election Thread (it's this sunday, folks!)

[Tamas]

No need to pile on derspiess on this.

The "gypsy issue" was the main thing for Jobbik. Regardless of wether that "issue" exists for real or not, there are race/culture driven conflicts between magyars and the roma. At least that's how most people experience it. And it does not matter much if these issues are in fact more like economical in nature, and not "racial". When both the majority and the minority thinks there is a cultural conflict, well, there is a cultural conflict.

And the only party to approach the issue as such was Jobbik. Sure, they approach it the most disguting way, parading militia on the streets of villages with lots of gypsies.

And I do not miss the other parties employing anti-roma rhetoric. I miss them acknowledging the issue. Saying "people! as long as we treat the gypsies as separate non-hungarian entities there will be no peace or improvement!" would had been more than nothing. Perhaps did not result in much votes but would had given the message that the issue is being seen.

[Cecil]

Derspiess is correct though. As long as the european parties refuse to even acknowledge the issues that pop up with immigration in our societies nut job parties is going to continue to grow.

[derspiess]

Functionally, gypsies = immigrants.  Many of the same issues are in play.

[Razgovory]

Functionally, gypsies = immigrants.  Many of the same issues are in play.

What issues are those?

[Jacob]

What issues are those?

Xenophobia, insecurity and bigotry.

[Cecil]

What issues are those?

Xenophobia, insecurity and bigotry.

More predictable than Hansie.

[Fate]

Derspiess is correct though. As long as the european parties refuse to even acknowledge the issues that pop up with immigration in our societies nut job parties is going to continue to grow.

The issue isn't with immigrants. It's with the xenophobic and genocidal tendencies of Eastern Europeans. This isn't something you can change with elections. This will require a third World War and complete submission to American authority once you (predictably) lose.

[garbon]

What issues are those?

Xenophobia, insecurity and bigotry.

I wonder what kind of message a left-leaning party could make that could score points...

[JonasSalk]

According to porno, all Hungarian women love anal.  How does this factor into Jobbik's relatively large win?

[derspiess]

Functionally, gypsies = immigrants.  Many of the same issues are in play.

What issues are those?

Crime, education, employment, poverty, cultural issues/refusal to assimilate, sense of entitlement, etc.

[Razgovory]

Functionally, gypsies = immigrants.  Many of the same issues are in play.

What issues are those?

Crime, education, employment, poverty, cultural issues/refusal to assimilate, sense of entitlement, etc.

In other words the same issue that American politicians refuse to address when dealing with non-whites?

[Fate]

Functionally, gypsies = immigrants.  Many of the same issues are in play.

What issues are those?

Crime, education, employment, poverty, cultural issues/refusal to assimilate, sense of entitlement, etc.

Why would any of that be the responsibility of the government? I don't see the line in the constitution that grants Congress the authority to regulate education, poverty, and white entitlement culture.

[Jacob]

More predictable than Hansie.

Can't say the same for you as I have no idea who you are.

[derspiess]

Why would any of that be the responsibility of the government? I don't see the line in the constitution that grants Congress the authority to regulate education, poverty, and white entitlement culture.

Sorry, I think I missed the part of the conversation where we were talking about the US.

[Razgovory]

More predictable than Hansie.

Can't say the same for you as I have no idea who you are.

He's that turtle that beat Bugs Bunny two out of three times.