The Hungarian Election Thread (it's this sunday, folks!)

[Martinus]

Social-democrats are cowardly socialists. If you want to redistribute wealth, do it properly. If not, stop this wishy-washy shit.

Seem to me social democrats in most countries (can't speak to Hungary) do it pretty well.

They're getting dumped on in this thread because of Marty taint.

I thought it has less to do with Marty taint, and more to do with this being loons like Solmyr or Tamas who do that.

[Tamas]

So official final result of the first round:

Fidesz: 52.76%
MSZP: 19.30%
Jobbik: 16.97%
LMP: 7.43%
MDF: 2.65%

In effect, Fidesz has already secured enough seats to govern alone (oh btw, on paper they are in alliance with christian democrats, but those are absolute puppets designed to cater for the illiterate rightwingers, so there is no point to talk of them as two separate entities, no one does).
And unless their voters decide the match has been won and stay home, they WILL get 75% in the second round.

All things considered I am glad I was not right regarding Jobbik's support, altough 17% is still awfully much for a party which can't say 3 sentences without the word "jew" appearing in at least one of them.

MDF's president(ess) resigned, I predict MDF to desintegrate.

LMP - well I just cant wrap my mind around them, apart from being a catering party for protest voters who despised the two big parties and were bothered by Jobbik's antisemitism. (yes, about 7% of hungarians are bothered by anti-semitic rhetoric)

I must say that despite my worries and personal disgust of Fidesz (the fuckers went from radical liberals to conservative populists in 20 years), I find myself hoping for their 2/3rd majority. It would be like the country playing russian roulette, but this deadlock must be broken.

[Razgovory]

I think we should all be happy for Fahdiz.  Yeah, he's not going to rule a nice country, but ruling any country is better then most of us will ever do.

[Alexandru H.]

So official final result of the first round:

Fidesz: 52.76%
MSZP: 19.30%
Jobbik: 16.97%
LMP: 7.43%
MDF: 2.65%

In effect, Fidesz has already secured enough seats to govern alone (oh btw, on paper they are in alliance with christian democrats, but those are absolute puppets designed to cater for the illiterate rightwingers, so there is no point to talk of them as two separate entities, no one does).
And unless their voters decide the match has been won and stay home, they WILL get 75% in the second round.

All things considered I am glad I was not right regarding Jobbik's support, altough 17% is still awfully much for a party which can't say 3 sentences without the word "jew" appearing in at least one of them.

MDF's president(ess) resigned, I predict MDF to desintegrate.

LMP - well I just cant wrap my mind around them, apart from being a catering party for protest voters who despised the two big parties and were bothered by Jobbik's antisemitism. (yes, about 7% of hungarians are bothered by anti-semitic rhetoric)

I must say that despite my worries and personal disgust of Fidesz (the fuckers went from radical liberals to conservative populists in 20 years), I find myself hoping for their 2/3rd majority. It would be like the country playing russian roulette, but this deadlock must be broken.

So what you're saying is that we don't have to occupy Budapest in order to oust the government?  But we were so ready for it...

[Zanza]

Social-democrats are cowardly socialists. If you want to redistribute wealth, do it properly. If not, stop this wishy-washy shit.

So unless you are radical in your policies you are a coward? Compromise is what a democracy is about, not radicalism.

[Razgovory]

Is the MSZP the old communist party?  Also the Jobbick chick isn't that bad looking.

[Tamas]

Is the MSZP the old communist party?  Also the Jobbick chick isn't that bad looking.

Yes the are, altough they changed to social-liberalism a long time ago.

[derspiess]

How many 'shocking' victories will far-right fringe parties win before mainstream Euro parties realize it might be wise to start thinking about doing something about immigration?

[Sahib]

How many 'shocking' victories will far-right fringe parties win before mainstream Euro parties realize it might be wise to start thinking about doing something about immigration?

How many "shocking" victories of far-right fringe parties can you actually name? 

EDIT: And immigration? It's Hungary ffs 

[garbon]

I like that derspiess isn't afraid to support jew haters.

[derspiess]

I like that derspiess isn't afraid to support jew haters.

Yeah, way to read my post correctly, sweets

My jew-loving credentials are solid.  I don't support the far-right in Euroland or anywhere else; I'm just blaming the mainstream left (and some right) parties for being such cowards on immigration issues, which pushes people to vote for the BNP, parties of Le Pen & Darth Haider, and other nutjobs.

[Fate]

I like that derspiess isn't afraid to support jew haters.

There's no reason to keep jews in Europe. We need them in Israel for the second coming.

[Razgovory]

How many 'shocking' victories will far-right fringe parties win before mainstream Euro parties realize it might be wise to start thinking about doing something about immigration?

How many "shocking" victories of far-right fringe parties can you actually name? 

EDIT: And immigration? It's Hungary ffs 

Do people actually immigrate to Hungary?

[Fate]

How many 'shocking' victories will far-right fringe parties win before mainstream Euro parties realize it might be wise to start thinking about doing something about immigration?

How many "shocking" victories of far-right fringe parties can you actually name? 

EDIT: And immigration? It's Hungary ffs 

Do people actually immigrate to Hungary?

You mean you haven't heard of the Islamic Caliphate of Budapest?

[HisMajestyBOB]

I like that derspiess isn't afraid to support jew haters.

Yeah, way to read my post correctly, sweets

My jew-loving credentials are solid.  I don't support the far-right in Euroland or anywhere else; I'm just blaming the mainstream left (and some right) parties for being such cowards on immigration issues, which pushes people to vote for the BNP, parties of Le Pen & Darth Haider, and other nutjobs.

Yeah, those far-left parties should have had a stronger stance against those immigrating Jews and Gypsies several hundred years ago. They're really paying for it now!