The Hungarian Election Thread (it's this sunday, folks!)

[The Brain]

Neoliberalism.

You have gone all left wing nutso on us haven't you?

I'm a proud social-democrat. That's hardly "left wing nutso".

lol

[Alexandru H.]

Jobbik should make some noise about the lost crownlands of St. Stephen.

The monarchy of St. Stephen doesn't exist.  The Republic of Hungary has no claim to them.

Oh right, yes. The Holy Crown Teaching (not sure about the translation of the last word) is also a major point of hungarian nazi lunaticism. St. Stephen's crown "was given by the Pope, it is the only such crown, so it is above all other monarch titles, and every treaty signed in the name of Hungary not endorsed by the Holy Crown is null and void". Yeah  I know the theory has holes. These fuckers has this strange myth going on where they dress shamanistic, drum on shaman drums (which is for them the über all of all musical instruments, being divine and all), but pray to the christian god, and especially Virgin Mary, who was our patron supposedly ("that places Hungary right below Jesus")

So the thing with Jobbik is that altough such lunatics are a very small minority of the country, they run rampant in the active part of the party (not to mention their militia the Magyar Guard), and for me it is impossible to tell just how much actual power they hold over the organization. But that organization is going to get around 17% of votes according to the polls, becoming 2nd biggest party. Personally I would not be surprised by 25%. Their popularity among the young, english speaking, internet-using, quite liberal-ish life living people I know is rampant, so I fear their popularity among the bigotted unwashed masses.

Neah, not crazier than "we're actually the ancestors of indo-europeans, our language is the original latin and in this area man first created civilization" theory...

[derspiess]

I thought that dubious distinction belonged to the Czechs...

The Czechs made some decent-quality hardware, at least.  I always assumed Romania had the worst army.

I would rank them, from best to worst:
*USSR
*East Germany
*Poland
*Czechoslovakia
*Hungary
*Bulgaria
*Romania

[derspiess]

I'm a proud social-democrat. That's hardly "left wing nutso".

The fact that you're proud about it confirms that you are a nutso.

[Solmyr]

Social-democrats are just commies trying to pretend they aren't.

[Tamas]

Social-democrats are cowardly socialists. If you want to redistribute wealth, do it properly. If not, stop this wishy-washy shit.

[clandestino]

Social-democrats are cowardly socialists. If you want to redistribute wealth, do it properly. If not, stop this wishy-washy shit.

Am I the only one a little bit surprised about a 75% majority win?

Anyways, go... LMP.

Is there a percentage that needs to be hit before a party elects a MP?

[Admiral Yi]

Social-democrats are cowardly socialists. If you want to redistribute wealth, do it properly. If not, stop this wishy-washy shit.

Seem to me social democrats in most countries (can't speak to Hungary) do it pretty well.

They're getting dumped on in this thread because of Marty taint.

[Tamas]

Is there a percentage that needs to be hit before a party elects a MP?

Yes, 5% of total votes cast must be held by the party.


As for results, we are nearing Polish levels in moronic planning: mostly in cities with universities, lots of people vote in a different city than their permanent residence address. For the first time this election, these werent distributed among the various voting districts of the city in question, but rather sent to a sinlge district.

This resulted in HUGE lines in several cities, there are STILL people waiting to vote (the whole thing should have ended two hours ago). Because of this, campaign-silence is still in effect so results and exit polls cannot be made public because "they could influence the people yet to vote"

[Alexandru H.]

Is there a percentage that needs to be hit before a party elects a MP?

Yes, 5% of total votes cast must be held by the party.


As for results, we are nearing Polish levels in moronic planning: mostly in cities with universities, lots of people vote in a different city than their permanent residence address. For the first time this election, these werent distributed among the various voting districts of the city in question, but rather sent to a sinlge district.

This resulted in HUGE lines in several cities, there are STILL people waiting to vote (the whole thing should have ended two hours ago). Because of this, campaign-silence is still in effect so results and exit polls cannot be made public because "they could influence the people yet to vote"

Also happened right here... it was the perfect chance to shout "fraud". They never learn, do they?

Edit: did I hear this right? Fidesz 55%, the socialists 20% and Jobbik 17?

[The Brain]

Social-democrats are cowardly socialists. If you want to redistribute wealth, do it properly. If not, stop this wishy-washy shit.

Seem to me social democrats in most countries (can't speak to Hungary) do it pretty well.

They're getting dumped on in this thread because of Marty taint.

In Sweden they are led by A WOMAN. I rest my case.

[Tamas]

Is there a percentage that needs to be hit before a party elects a MP?

Yes, 5% of total votes cast must be held by the party.


As for results, we are nearing Polish levels in moronic planning: mostly in cities with universities, lots of people vote in a different city than their permanent residence address. For the first time this election, these werent distributed among the various voting districts of the city in question, but rather sent to a sinlge district.

This resulted in HUGE lines in several cities, there are STILL people waiting to vote (the whole thing should have ended two hours ago). Because of this, campaign-silence is still in effect so results and exit polls cannot be made public because "they could influence the people yet to vote"

Also happened right here... it was the perfect chance to shout "fraud". They never learn, do they?

Edit: did I hear this right? Fidesz 55%, the socialists 20% and Jobbik 17?

Thats a very unofficial data, supposedly at 34% of votes processed.
Plus that info has LMP on 6.7% which is frankly horrible. If laisezz faire MDF can't get in, but "we heavily tax petrol usage while making industry grow exponentially so people get jobs" party does, then our voters are morons.

[Ed Anger]

Beet wagons don't need fuel.

[Alexandru H.]

Is there a percentage that needs to be hit before a party elects a MP?

Yes, 5% of total votes cast must be held by the party.


As for results, we are nearing Polish levels in moronic planning: mostly in cities with universities, lots of people vote in a different city than their permanent residence address. For the first time this election, these werent distributed among the various voting districts of the city in question, but rather sent to a sinlge district.

This resulted in HUGE lines in several cities, there are STILL people waiting to vote (the whole thing should have ended two hours ago). Because of this, campaign-silence is still in effect so results and exit polls cannot be made public because "they could influence the people yet to vote"

Also happened right here... it was the perfect chance to shout "fraud". They never learn, do they?

Edit: did I hear this right? Fidesz 55%, the socialists 20% and Jobbik 17?

Thats a very unofficial data, supposedly at 34% of votes processed.
Plus that info has LMP on 6.7% which is frankly horrible. If laisezz faire MDF can't get in, but "we heavily tax petrol usage while making industry grow exponentially so people get jobs" party does, then our voters are morons.

Relax, Tamas. I've been voting since 2000 and I never saw my chosen party reaching 5% of the votes...

[clandestino]

Plus that info has LMP on 6.7% which is frankly horrible. If laisezz faire MDF can't get in, but "we heavily tax petrol usage while making industry grow exponentially so people get jobs" party does, then our voters are morons.

Isn't it expected? I mean if the socialists here were to take a beating, a part of their voters would vote on the far left.

Or reversely if other two right wing parties already have such a strong presence, it can be quite difficult to reach those 5%.

Or are you surprised because of recent polls?