Anti-gay senator arrested for DUI after leaving a gay club

[Razgovory]

You're an only child, right? Think of all your parents did for you so their line would continue, all of that going for nought.

He can still have a child.

Yes, but kidnapping is still illegal.

[Martinus]

I leave my bigoted half to say bigoted things.

I heard this argument used many times by gays, especially in the context of gay pride parades ("they make us all look like freaks"). I do not share this view - I like transgendered people, I enjoy drag shows / transvestite entertainment, etc. (though I do agree that the nature of GLB "uniqueness" is different than that of "T", the former being about sexual attraction the latter about gender identity). I was just reporting on what is espoused by many gays.

[Malthus]

You're an only child, right? Think of all your parents did for you so their line would continue, all of that going for nought.

He can still have a child.

Yeah, pairing up with lesbians for insemination, for one. Only you folks hate each other, apparently, making the parenting a tad awkward.

Do I sense a future sitcom plot? 

[Razgovory]

You're an only child, right? Think of all your parents did for you so their line would continue, all of that going for nought.

He can still have a child.

Yeah, pairing up with lesbians for insemination, for one. Only you folks hate each other, apparently, making the parenting a tad awkward.

Do I sense a future sitcom plot? 

It's not that different then most married couples.

[garbon]

So you're okay with female to male transsexuals?

I'm not sure if there would be anything more horrifying than if I went down on a dude and he had a vagina.

[garbon]

Yeah, pairing up with lesbians for insemination, for one. Only you folks hate each other, apparently, making the parenting a tad awkward.

Do I sense a future sitcom plot? 

Why does it have to be his biological child?

[Martinus]

I don't think gays and lesbians actually do hate each other. They are just ultimately entirely uninterested. We could just as well be aliens living in different dimensions.

I mean, gay men obviously interact with straight men, either as victims of homophobia, or originators of weird bromances or secret fantasies. They interact with straight women, either through the internalised mysogony or the fag hag mechanism. I am not very familiar with how lesbians see the world, but I would imagine they have similar love/hate relationships with the straight people of both genders.

Now, none of this is present when it comes to interactions between gays and lesbians. No common attraction (either way). No competition.

[garbon]

I mean, gay men obviously interact with straight men, either as victims of homophobia, or originators of weird bromances or secret fantasies. They interact with straight women, either through the internalised mysogony or the fag hag mechanism.

There are more ways than this to interact with other gender-orientations.

[Malthus]

So you're okay with female to male transsexuals?

I'm not sure if there would be anything more horrifying than if I went down on a dude and he had a vagina.

Wouldn't you notice before the deed was done? 

[garbon]

Wouldn't you notice before the deed was done? 

I meant the physical act of going downwards.

[Malthus]

Yeah, pairing up with lesbians for insemination, for one. Only you folks hate each other, apparently, making the parenting a tad awkward.

Do I sense a future sitcom plot? 

Why does it have to be his biological child?

Well, that's one way. One could adopt, too, or even have a child by a hetero woman who was willing.

Just seems an elegant solution - dykes need sperm and gays need wombs for bio-babies; why, they could cooperate together! Then, they's have something in common. 

[garbon]

Well, that's one way. One could adopt, too, or even have a child by a hetero woman who was willing.

Just seems an elegant solution - dykes need sperm and gays need wombs for bio-babies; why, they could cooperate together! Then, they's have something in common. 

[Sheilbh]

I mean, gay men obviously interact with straight men, either as victims of homophobia, or originators of weird bromances or secret fantasies. They interact with straight women, either through the internalised mysogony or the fag hag mechanism.

There are more ways than this to interact with other gender-orientations.

There are more ways to act with people.  Friendship is one that goes unmentioned, for example.

[Martinus]

I mean, gay men obviously interact with straight men, either as victims of homophobia, or originators of weird bromances or secret fantasies. They interact with straight women, either through the internalised mysogony or the fag hag mechanism.

There are more ways than this to interact with other gender-orientations.

They are sexual orientations, not gender orientations. I am not attracted to someone because he wears trousers or considers himself a man - I am attracted because he exudes male pheromones. Not every time replacing "sex" with "gender" makes you look more sophisticated. Sometimes it just makes you wrong.

[jimmy olsen]

That's what bisexuality is.

I've read some studies that imply otherwise about women.