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Started by Syt, February 18, 2010, 12:58:21 PM

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Berkut

Well, like I said, I don't win that often.

But I don't mind not winning, as long as I have fun.
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Grey Fox

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Quote from: Martinus on April 04, 2013, 12:01:32 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 04, 2013, 11:43:15 AM
Mart's way of playing the game is what is plastered all over every guide or forums on Civ V.

First you pick which type of victory you want to achieve than you plan your civ accordingly.

It's impossible to start a game & halfway thru to decide, "I'm going cultural victory" & actually win that game. Atleast, highly unlikely. Especially if you went wide.


Marty, have you ever tried a one city challenge?

Yeah, OCC is my usual style. Even without OCC I usually go no more than 2-3 extra cities.

By the way, what map size and speed do you guys play? I usually play on Tiny/Quick.

Giant/Marathon

Nah, not really. Did that only once. ~1500 turns or so.

I meant the OCC options, where you can't own more than one city? No Puppets either.
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DGuller

Quote from: Berkut on April 04, 2013, 11:33:10 AM
Huh, that is kind of cool seeing how you work that Marty.

I approach the game in a completely different manner.

I don't play at all with an eye towards "I want to see if I can win via this mechanism, and will choose accordingly..."

I mostly pick what I think is an interesting civ that has some kind of cool mechanic going, and then see how it develops.

"Winning" for me is really just a way to provide me with a direction to play, rather than a goal per se.

You seem to approach the game from a stance of "Here is how I want to win, so I will make these choices" while I go from a "I want to make these choices, how can I win with them?"

I don't win very often, tbh. :)
Up to an Emperor level, I win much more often than not.  Beyond that, the AI advantage just gets too ridiculous. 

I likewise don't have any goals in mind, and I almost always play with a random civ, just to see what RNG would hand me.  The type of victory I pursue depends on how the game develops.  Typically I wind up with a science victory, just to head off a science victory by an AI, and I usually cut it very close.

Viking

Quote from: Martinus on April 04, 2013, 11:41:04 AM
Quote from: Berkut on April 04, 2013, 11:33:10 AM
Huh, that is kind of cool seeing how you work that Marty.

I approach the game in a completely different manner.

I don't play at all with an eye towards "I want to see if I can win via this mechanism, and will choose accordingly..."

I mostly pick what I think is an interesting civ that has some kind of cool mechanic going, and then see how it develops.

"Winning" for me is really just a way to provide me with a direction to play, rather than a goal per se.

You seem to approach the game from a stance of "Here is how I want to win, so I will make these choices" while I go from a "I want to make these choices, how can I win with them?"

I don't win very often, tbh. :)

I'm more OCD I guess. :)

What difficulty level do you play on usually, by the way? For me it's either Warlord or Prince (so not very high) but I win pretty much every time.

Depends on the mod I'm playing.

Vanilla it's king or emperor. If I lose it's because either of an early headshot (20 warriors and archers show up early and take my capital) or I fall behind in tech mid game.
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Martinus

Quote from: Grey Fox on April 04, 2013, 12:07:37 PM
Quote from: Martinus on April 04, 2013, 12:01:32 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 04, 2013, 11:43:15 AM
Mart's way of playing the game is what is plastered all over every guide or forums on Civ V.

First you pick which type of victory you want to achieve than you plan your civ accordingly.

It's impossible to start a game & halfway thru to decide, "I'm going cultural victory" & actually win that game. Atleast, highly unlikely. Especially if you went wide.


Marty, have you ever tried a one city challenge?

Yeah, OCC is my usual style. Even without OCC I usually go no more than 2-3 extra cities.

By the way, what map size and speed do you guys play? I usually play on Tiny/Quick.

Giant/Marathon

Nah, not really. Did that only once. ~1500 turns or so.

I meant the OCC options, where you can't own more than one city? No Puppets either.

Yeah I know - I play it often but I find it too easy for the cultural victory. :P

Solmyr

I play on largest map size, usually with continents. I prefer lots of land space.

DGuller

Quote from: Solmyr on April 04, 2013, 02:37:59 PM
I play on largest map size, usually with continents. I prefer lots of land space.
IMO, that makes the game too long to be fun.  I find standard map size and standard number of turns to be very well-balanced for the fun aspect.  I like playing archipelago maps, since otherwise the navies are marginalized, but it does make the game a little easier than same settings on continents or pangea.

Solmyr

I don't mind long games, actually. I just like lots of lands to explore and settle. Civs look more like real countries too, than if they just have a paltry three cities.

garbon

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Grey Fox

I started a game on a Tilted Axis map last nite, started in the Medieval era.

It's a first for both settings. Also took Austria for the first time.
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PDH

Quote from: Solmyr on April 04, 2013, 03:22:42 PM
I don't mind long games, actually. I just like lots of lands to explore and settle. Civs look more like real countries too, than if they just have a paltry three cities.

Me too.  I don't care about winning or losing, I just like to see the rise and fall of the states over a long time - as you said they look proper too.
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Martinus

My problem with long games is that, if I don't finish a game in one sitting, I rarely if ever go back to a save.

And since I rarely have more than 1-2 hours to play at a time, if I want to finish a game, this really means that it's either Quick or a fast paced Normal game are the only ones for me.

By the way, question to people like Berkut and others, who go with the flow - are you warmongers or do you only defend yourself?

Solmyr

I do return to saves. Just now I returned to my England game from a year ago. :P

I'm often pretty bad at building large armies for offense. I always like to build those cool buildings first. :P My warmongering depends a bit on the civilization - if I have a warlike civ with a suitable UU and time to build up an offensive army, I can go on offense. More likely if there's someone close by on lands that I want myself. I rarely go for outright global conquest spree though, unless I play the Mongols or something.

DGuller

Quote from: Solmyr on April 05, 2013, 10:26:34 AM
I do return to saves. Just now I returned to my England game from a year ago. :P

I'm often pretty bad at building large armies for offense. I always like to build those cool buildings first. :P My warmongering depends a bit on the civilization - if I have a warlike civ with a suitable UU and time to build up an offensive army, I can go on offense. More likely if there's someone close by on lands that I want myself. I rarely go for outright global conquest spree though, unless I play the Mongols or something.
That's pretty much how I play.  My biggest weakness is probably that I go all-out on peaceful development until I get DOWed, at which point I may have a fight for my life in my hands.  It also doesn't help that I always beeline for Brandenburg Gate and possibly Alhambra, so that my new units would start with 3/4 promotions right off the bat, and so I don't want to waste resources building units that would be too inexperienced to be worth upgrading.  Sometimes AI doesn't cooperate by waiting.  :(