UK-Israel relations hit the rocks over Dubai assanation

[Agelastus]

Let's not overstate Israeli professionalism.  I've heard first-hand accounts of IDF troops throwing goats down wells and raping Palestinian children.

I thought it was the other way round.

pssst:  those are siegy's stories.

Well, he's a continent away and there are no wells near me, so I should be safe.

[Razgovory]

Huh.  Apparently there's some displeasure how it was carried out in Israel.

[jimmy olsen]

Huh.  Apparently there's some displeasure how it was carried out in Israel.

Link?

[Razgovory]

Huh.  Apparently there's some displeasure how it was carried out in Israel.

Link?

Nah, I don't play any Nintendo games anymore.

[Ender]

And like 40% of Icelanders are actually descended for Irish slaves.

You can't get lower than that.

[Sheilbh]

Huh.  Apparently there's some displeasure how it was carried out in Israel.

Of course.  It'd be weird if there wasn't, Israel's a decent, civilised country.

[Richard Hakluyt]

Yes, I would imagine that this sort of thing goes down very badly in places like Tel Aviv.

[Razgovory]

Huh.  Apparently there's some displeasure how it was carried out in Israel.

Of course.  It'd be weird if there wasn't, Israel's a decent, civilised country.

The big gripe is the publicity, not that it was done or they used British passports.

[Sheilbh]

The big gripe is the publicity, not that it was done or they used British passports.

Actually I'd read that there were questions of who within the political structure knew about it and an unhappiness that the real identity of Israeli citizens was used.  Which I think is exactly the sort of reaction a similar operation would get in the UK.

[Admiral Yi]

I'm curious about that part.  Is it because the actual dudes are somehow in danger now?

[Sheilbh]

I'm curious about that part.  Is it because the actual dudes are somehow in danger now?

I think it's more that it seems distasteful for any state to, in effect, steal the identity of some of its citizens.  The German's said that he gave his permission - or it was his real passport or something - but the Brit-Israelis, Irish-Israelis and French-Israelis all completely deny any knowledge of it.

However chances are they are now targets for retaliation, not as much as the agents of course and not, I imagine, terribly prioritised ones.

[Admiral Yi]

However chances are they are now targets for retaliation, not as much as the agents of course and not, I imagine, terribly prioritised ones.

You think Hamas is going to try and kill some guys who had their passports stolen?

[Sheilbh]

You think Hamas is going to try and kill some guys who had their passports stolen?

They were the people who killed this guy and I doubt that Hamas will necessarily believe their protestations of ignorance.  I think that killing them would be higher on the list of priorities than, say, killing a random Israeli but that it'd be significantly lower than killing the actual agents or other figures.

[Neil]

You think Hamas is going to try and kill some guys who had their passports stolen?

They were the people who killed this guy and I doubt that Hamas will necessarily believe their protestations of ignorance.  I think that killing them would be higher on the list of priorities than, say, killing a random Israeli but that it'd be significantly lower than killing the actual agents or other figures.

Killing random Israelis seems pretty high on the list of Hamas' priorities.

[Sheilbh]

Killing random Israelis seems pretty high on the list of Hamas' priorities.

That's because it's easier to do (or to try - the rockets aren't terribly effective) than, say, a big propagandistic attack on something important to Israeli identity, or an assassination of a prominent Israeli.  But I think all things being equal they wouldn't choose to kill random Israelis - even if that meant more deaths - they'd want to do something bigger.