NCAA 2009

[Berkut]

If Gronk comes back and the offense manages to get on track, Arizona is going to be very good this year.

The defense is scary fast.

[Valmy]

If Gronk comes back and the offense manages to get on track, Arizona is going to be very good this year.

The defense is scary fast.

Do you think they can beat Oregon State?  I mean Iowa should theoretically be a tough game but after seeing them celebrate like they just won the Super Bowl against Northern Iowa...

[Berkut]

I think Iowa will be a very difficult win, to be honest, even if Arizona is as good as I hope. Not an easy place to go and get a win ever.

But yes, I do think Arizona can beat OSU. That doesn't mean they will, of course, but I certainly think that if the Scott matures a bit and settles down, Gronk comes back healthy, and this defense is as good as CMU made them look, then I think the only Pac-10 team that I would consider to be "unbeatable" is USC - and USC always chokes one game a year - maybe it will be Arizona's turn!

I am thinking 6 wins in conference this year though.

[jimmy olsen]

Woah, BYU jumped up 11 places.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/rankings/_/poll/5

1   Florida (56)   1-0   1493
2   Texas (2)   1-0   1424
3   USC   1-0   1355
4   Alabama (2)   1-0   1331
5   Oklahoma State   1-0   1201
6   Mississippi   1-0   1095
7   Penn State   1-0   1082
8   Ohio State   1-0   985
9   Brigham Young   1-0   984
10   California   1-0   971
11   LSU   1-0   890
12   Boise State   1-0   882
13   Oklahoma   0-1   782
14   Virginia Tech   0-1   652
15   Georgia Tech   1-0   630
16   TCU   0-0   523
17   Utah   1-0   404
18   Notre Dame   1-0   383
19   North Carolina   1-0   338
20   Miami (FL)   1-0   315
21   Georgia   0-1   294
22   Nebraska   1-0   266
23   Cincinnati   1-0   248
24   Kansas   1-0   196
25   Missouri    1-0   126

    * Dropped from rankings: Oregon 16, Florida State 18, Iowa 22

    * Others receiving votes: Oregon State 113, Michigan State 83, Pittsburgh 82, Texas Tech 53, Oregon 47, Clemson 40, FLORIDAST 39, West Virginia 32, Tennessee 30, Iowa 24, Michigan 18, UCLA 18, Baylor 17, Boston College 14, Arizona 12, East Carolina 6, Air Force 4, Auburn 4, Colorado State 4, Arkansas 3, South Carolina 3, South Florida 1, Southern Miss 1, Tulsa 1, Houston 1,

[Valmy]

Behold the glory of the coaches poll:

1 Florida (56) 1-0 1472
2 Texas (2) 1-0 1407
3 USC (1) 1-0 1352
4 Alabama 1-0 1299
5 Penn State 1-0 1145
6 Oklahoma State 1-0 1114
7 Ohio State 1-0 1106
8 Mississippi 1-0 1006
9 LSU 1-0 977
10 California 1-0 935
11 Boise State 1-0 803
12 Brigham Young 1-0 755
13 Georgia Tech 1-0 685
14 Oklahoma 0-1 682
15 Virginia Tech 0-1 633
16 TCU 0-0 543
17 Utah 1-0 503
18 Nebraska 1-0 360
19 North Carolina 1-0 358
20 Notre Dame 1-0 335
21 Georgia 0-1 304
22 Miami (FL) 1-0 276
23 Cincinnati 1-0 187
24 Oregon State 1-0 169
25 Kansas 1-0 139
Dropped from rankings: Oregon 14, Florida State 19, Iowa 21
Others receiving votes: Michigan State 133, Missouri 97, Iowa 70, Florida State 62, Texas Tech 53, Oregon 50, Pittsburgh 26, Clemson 24, South Carolina 23, Tennessee 21, WESTVIRGINIA 13, Auburn 13, South Florida 12, Kentucky 8, Arizona 5, Michigan 4, Northwestern 4, Boston College 3, Arkansas 2, Baylor 2, UCLA 2, Tulsa 1, Colorado State 1, Minnesota 1

I cannot believe people are still voting for Texas Tech.  Maybe they missed the part where they struggled to beat South Dakota State and lost all their stars from last year?

[jimmy olsen]

I would have voted Alabama #1, they actually beat a good school.

[Valmy]

I would have voted Alabama #1, they actually beat a good school.

Virginia Tech?  Don't make me laugh.  Alabama was as sure of winning that game against those over-rated losers as Florida was whipping up on their patsy.

[Ed Anger]

I cannot believe people are still voting for Texas Tech.  Maybe they missed the part where they struggled to beat South Dakota State and lost all their stars from last year?

Everybody loves that goofy head coach. Except for Bill in Sinton.

[jimmy olsen]

I would have voted Alabama #1, they actually beat a good school.

Virginia Tech?  Don't make me laugh.  Alabama was as sure of winning that game against those over-rated losers as Florida was whipping up on their patsy.

Did you watch the game? It was a good game, VaTech sure didn't look like a patsy to me.

[derspiess]

WVU is lucky to get any votes at all, after its performance over IAA Liberty. 

33-20?  Sufficient grounds to fire Luther Van Dam.  Won't even need to go anywhere to find a new head coach, either.  And his replacement is already in the organization.  Get it done!!

[Ed Anger]

Sufficient grounds to fire Luther Van Dam.

?

[Valmy]

Did you watch the game? It was a good game, VaTech sure didn't look like a patsy to me.

I did but aparently not the game you watched because I saw a team totally dominated in every facet except the scoreboard.  VT was totally overmatched, they were never ever to keep possession of the ball and were outgained about 30-1 (ok more like 3-1).

But then it was the sort of game I expected.  I got the feeling people were ranking VT high just because they felt like they needed to give somebody from the ACC some love.  They should spend it on Miami and not this crew.

[derspiess]

Sufficient grounds to fire Luther Van Dam.

?

=

Bill Stewart is the embodiment of Luther.  Nice guy, decent assistant coach, but clueless, bumbling, & inarticulate.  Hell, he's starting to look like him.

WVU was drunk from the 2008 Fiesta Bowl win when they hired him, and it has been a hell of a hangover since.

[Ed Anger]

You can always root for the Marshall Thundering Turd.

[derspiess]

You can always root for the Marshall Thundering Turd.

I'd probably just give up on college football altogether before I'd get to that point. 

Marshall is so bad these days, it's almost no fun to mock them.