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[ulmont]

The Unitarians, yes.

Just curious.  That is a pretty big tent to make generalizations about then.

Even "Baptist" is a big tent to make generalizations about, since just the differences in the US between "American Baptists," "Southern Baptists," and "Freewill Baptists" are great.

[Sheilbh]

I've no idea what unitarians are.  I think they're very American. 

Unitarianism wouldn't work in this country.  If you want the good bits of Christianity (cake sales, generally good moral shit, charity) without the difficulty of belief in the implausible then you just go to an Anglican church.

[LaCroix]

Does "protestant" cover everybody who is Christian and not Catholic or some sort of Orthodox variety?  Do my church or the Unitarians count as "protestants"?

Protestants are Western Churches that aren't Catholic.  Globally they're not Catholic, Ortho or Oriental

so, jehova witnesses are protestant?

[Neil]

And magical power crystals are millenia older than that, you dumb cunt.  It doesn't make it any less new-age bullshit.

Go fuck yourself.  I don't need this bullshit.  If you need to believe not thinking Jesus is a zombie jew who committed a blood sacrifice to himself and everything else is "new age bullshit" go right fucking ahead.

You do need it.  You need to know what you are and what the beliefs you have chosen represent, and you need Me to teach you.

[Sheilbh]

so, jehova witnesses are protestant?

They're a branch of Protestantism, I imagine.

[LaCroix]

Noun 1. Jehovah's Witnesses - Protestant denomination founded in the United States by Charles Taze Russell in 1884

well, there you go. 

[Maximus]

Does "protestant" cover everybody who is Christian and not Catholic or some sort of Orthodox variety?  Do my church or the Unitarians count as "protestants"?

It doesn't cover Mennonites, Amish, Hutterites, etc. The Anabaptist churches trace their "lineage" to the apostles independent of the Roman Church.

[Admiral Yi]

It doesn't cover Mennonites, Amish, Hutterites, etc. The Anabaptist churches trace their "lineage" to the apostles independent of the Roman Church.

Did those guys all start up before the Reformation?

[Razgovory]

It doesn't cover Mennonites, Amish, Hutterites, etc. The Anabaptist churches trace their "lineage" to the apostles independent of the Roman Church.

Did those guys all start up before the Reformation?

Yeah, but they are like Wiccans and believe that it was just all secret before then.

[Maximus]

Did those guys all start up before the Reformation?

Under those names(which were given to them by outsiders), probably. But they go back to apostolic times in their beliefs and baptismal lineage.

[Sheilbh]

Did those guys all start up before the Reformation?

Most of them started during the Reformation - 16th century - though there's a couple of heterodox groups in Europe who have similar beliefs before then.  Saying they trace their beliefs and practices to the early Church isn't terribly useful because every single Christian Church claims that.

[Ed Anger]

Amish make fantastic pies.

[Admiral Yi]

Under those names(which were given to them by outsiders), probably. But they go back to apostolic times in their beliefs and baptismal lineage.

Please elaborate.

[Maximus]

Saying they trace their beliefs and practices to the early Church isn't terribly useful because every single Christian Church claims that.

Which is what makes them christian, but the protestants trace theirs through the Roman church. The Anabaptists do not.

[Maximus]

Please elaborate.

What's to elaborate? They existed since the apostles. Under different names, in different places, often in secrecy for obvious reasons.