Uganda debates death penalty for gays

[viper37]

and that proves my point.

[syk]

NSFW!

some people might be surprised by their search results, but if they're searching for this, I think they already know it's NSFW

Fred Phelps is weeping for you! 

[LaCroix]

and that proves my point.

i was disagreeing with you, although i'm not sure catholics are "much much more" moderate than protestants. i think it depends on where you're looking. german catholics in the rural midwest might hold similar beliefs to norwegian protestants in the same area, whereas catholics/protestants in the northeast would have different views

[Barrister]

and that proves my point.

i was disagreeing with you, although i'm not sure catholics are "much much more" moderate than protestants. i think it depends on where you're looking. german catholics in the rural midwest might hold similar beliefs to norwegian protestants in the same area, whereas catholics/protestants in the northeast would have different views

You also should distinguish between people who identify themselves as belonging to a particular religion due to family or historic reasons (but haven't attended a service in years), and those who regularily attend.

[Martinus]

and that proves my point.

i was disagreeing with you, although i'm not sure catholics are "much much more" moderate than protestants. i think it depends on where you're looking. german catholics in the rural midwest might hold similar beliefs to norwegian protestants in the same area, whereas catholics/protestants in the northeast would have different views

You also should distinguish between people who identify themselves as belonging to a particular religion due to family or historic reasons (but haven't attended a service in years), and those who regularily attend.

Yup, and catholicism is one of the most "sticky" religions.

[Admiral Yi]

I don't think I've seen that Catholic table enough times yet to really grasp its import.  Could maybe three or four more posters please quote it?

[Ed Anger]

I don't think I've seen that Catholic table enough times yet to really grasp its import.  Could maybe three or four more posters please quote it?

[LaCroix]

er, wasn't disagreeing with you* 

[grumbler]

i was disagreeing with you, although i'm not sure catholics are "much much more" moderate than protestants.

You realize that this quote is noit a quote, and in fact verges on a strawman, right?  "Far more moderate" was the actual phrase used, and is significantly less emphatic than "'much, much more' moderate" is.

I don't have a stance on the issue per se; the Catholics I know (that i know are Catholics) are quite liberal, but anecdotal evidence isn't very useful.

[LaCroix]

i was disagreeing with you, although i'm not sure catholics are "much much more" moderate than protestants.

You realize that this quote is noit a quote, and in fact verges on a strawman, right?  "Far more moderate" was the actual phrase used, and is significantly less emphatic than "'much, much more' moderate" is.

I don't have a stance on the issue per se; the Catholics I know (that i know are Catholics) are quite liberal, but anecdotal evidence isn't very useful.

but that's what viper said..

Imho, occidental Catholics, especially in the US, are much much more moderate than their Protestants counterparts.

[Sheilbh]

Well it depends what you mean by moderate and what you mean by Protestant really. 

In England the Catholic Church is a bastion of inflexible moral values roundly ignored by an upper middle class faithful and fiercely upheld by an immigrant population (from Irish to Poles).  In comparison to the Church of England it is terrifyingly hard-line on everything.  However the Catholic Church is effectively a guitar led ecumenical sing along in comparison to the Kirk of Scotland.  I mean Scottish Churches don't even have cushions in case anyone accidentally enjoys themselves.

[grumbler]

but that's what viper said..

Imho, occidental Catholics, especially in the US, are much much more moderate than their Protestants counterparts.

Didn't see that tagged on at the bottom of that post.  My apologies, and observation withdrawn.

[LaCroix]

it's cool, i figured that's what had happened.

[viper37]

i was disagreeing with you, although i'm not sure catholics are "much much more" moderate than protestants.

You realize that this quote is noit a quote, and in fact verges on a strawman, right?  "Far more moderate" was the actual phrase used, and is significantly less emphatic than "'much, much more' moderate" is.

I don't have a stance on the issue per se; the Catholics I know (that i know are Catholics) are quite liberal, but anecdotal evidence isn't very useful.

One much too much, sorry.

"Much more moderate."
They seem less preachy to me.  More open to compromises.

I've never heard of a Catholic priest trying to cure gays in the US or here.  Much less catholic missonaries than Jehovah's Witness knocking at my door.  And once you tell them to fuck off, they don't come back endlessy.

Imho, a proper question to ask in a survey would be "Would you vote for a candidate that openly declares himself atheist".  There we'll have a good comparison on their fanatism level

[viper37]

Well it depends what you mean by moderate and what you mean by Protestant really. 

In England the Catholic Church is a bastion of inflexible moral values roundly ignored by an upper middle class faithful and fiercely upheld by an immigrant population (from Irish to Poles).  In comparison to the Church of England it is terrifyingly hard-line on everything.  However the Catholic Church is effectively a guitar led ecumenical sing along in comparison to the Kirk of Scotland.  I mean Scottish Churches don't even have cushions in case anyone accidentally enjoys themselves.

I'll admit the Anglican community seems a lot more open than the Catholics.  Not much of these around here, though.  In fact, I have no idea of how many Catholics we have left here.  Got to be somewhere around 50-60% of the people calling themselves Catholic.