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Anti-Minaret Online Referendum

Started by Grallon, November 20, 2009, 10:09:28 AM

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Are you in favor of a ban on the building of minarets/mosques?

European - Yes
9 (12.2%)
European - No
26 (35.1%)
North American - Yes
6 (8.1%)
North American - No
31 (41.9%)
Other - Yes
0 (0%)
Other - No
1 (1.4%)
N/A
0 (0%)
Meaningless Jaron Option
1 (1.4%)

Total Members Voted: 72

Razgovory

I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

derspiess

Quote from: Faeelin on November 29, 2009, 03:09:05 PM
Quote from: derspiess on November 29, 2009, 02:52:04 PM
:nelson @ all you limp-wristed Diversity types.

I had no idea letting Bosnians build minarets flew in face of common sense.

Bosnians can build all the minarets they want: in Bosnia.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

grumbler

Quote from: Neil on November 29, 2009, 07:56:51 PM
I would argue that it would be difficult for you to speak intelligently on the motivations of a Swiss voter against the minarets.  Moreover, given the lack of other anti-slav laws, I think to claim racism is foolish.  DICK.
You can argue what ever you like, you'll still be a CHENEY.
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

Bayraktar!

Neil

Quote from: grumbler on November 29, 2009, 08:14:15 PM
Quote from: Neil on November 29, 2009, 07:56:51 PM
I would argue that it would be difficult for you to speak intelligently on the motivations of a Swiss voter against the minarets.  Moreover, given the lack of other anti-slav laws, I think to claim racism is foolish.  DICK.
You can argue what ever you like, you'll still be a CHENEY.
Are you refering to Sir Thomas Cheney, Lord Warden of the Cinque Ports in the 16th century?
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

Razgovory

Quote from: derspiess on November 29, 2009, 08:12:18 PM
Quote from: Faeelin on November 29, 2009, 03:09:05 PM
Quote from: derspiess on November 29, 2009, 02:52:04 PM
:nelson @ all you limp-wristed Diversity types.

I had no idea letting Bosnians build minarets flew in face of common sense.

Bosnians can build all the minarets they want: in Bosnia.

God forbid that moderate Muslims move in.  Lets get some more of those crazies from Pakistan.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Grallon

We are pleased.  The Swiss show the way; being welcoming is one thing - tolerating an invasion in the name of multiculturalism is another.




G.
"Clearly, a civilization that feels guilty for everything it is and does will lack the energy and conviction to defend itself."

~Jean-François Revel

Jaron

Quote from: Grallon on November 29, 2009, 08:51:22 PM
We are pleased.  The Swiss show the way; being welcoming is one thing - tolerating an invasion in the name of multiculturalism is another.




G.

Going a bit overboard, aren't we?
Winner of THE grumbler point.

Grallon

"Clearly, a civilization that feels guilty for everything it is and does will lack the energy and conviction to defend itself."

~Jean-François Revel

Neil

I dunno.  The minaret thing doesn't seem important.  What is important is to deny permission for Muslim cultural centres (read:  terrorist recruitment centres), which Switzerland is doing a good job with.
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

garbon

Quote from: Neil on November 29, 2009, 09:06:26 PM
I dunno.  The minaret thing doesn't seem important.

Are you sure? Canada and the US allowed minarets and look what has become of us.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Jaron

Quote from: Grallon on November 29, 2009, 08:55:05 PM
Quote from: Jaron on November 29, 2009, 08:53:02 PM

Going a bit overboard, aren't we?


One step at a time - I'm not.



G.

Yes Martims, you have won a great victory over Islam here today.
Winner of THE grumbler point.

Barrister

Quote from: Neil on November 29, 2009, 09:06:26 PM
I dunno.  The minaret thing doesn't seem important.  What is important is to deny permission for Muslim cultural centres (read:  terrorist recruitment centres), which Switzerland is doing a good job with.

Because clearly Lac La Biche, Alberta is a terrorist recruitment centre. :rolleyes:


Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

Neil

I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

dps

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on November 29, 2009, 01:58:46 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on November 29, 2009, 01:50:48 PM
I doubt the swiss are the only country that would vote for this sort of thing. I wonder if it would pass in the US--unfortunately I suspect it might.

I think the majority of Americans would have spiess's attitude- not against it in principle, but don't see a reason to bother implementing a ban now.


God, I'd hope that most people would be opposed to it on principle.  I'm not sure what other reason there would be to oppose it, other than that it violates the basic right to free exercise of religion.

derspiess

I don't think there are too many scenarios in which I would support a ban like this in the US.  I might support it as a zoning restriction in my township, but that's about it.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall