The Brits: Why They Can’t Be Trusted With Music

Started by jimmy olsen, October 03, 2009, 01:28:55 PM

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DontSayBanana

#45
October 03, 2009, 09:29:54 PM
This guy's looking for criticism in all the wrong places. The British do not, by any means, have a monopoly on bad pop music- it's just that quality never figures into it when they run the popularity contests of what gets stuck in people's heads or gets played all over the club scene on Friday night because it's got a beat that makes it good dance music.

U2 is overrated, but I lump them into the same dinghy as Nirvana- they're famous and successful because at the end of the day, one can't help but hum that tune, even while thinking about how much one hates or is annoyed by it.

Also, in terms of musical prowess, there's a lot more technical talent to be showcased from that side of the pond. Clapton? Overrated because his songs are catchy. David Gilmour? Forever stuck in the shadow of Pink Floyd while teens play the riff from "Hey, You." (On that, I'm guilty of binging on playing every Floyd song I could learn) Through the 90s and 2000s, I haven't seen as much impressive work come out of Britain, but between the 60s and the 80s, British musicians added a lot to the field of musical techniques while popular American musicians just added a lot of songs to their back catalogs.
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#46
October 03, 2009, 10:33:29 PM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on October 03, 2009, 09:29:54 PMThrough the 90s and 2000s, I haven't seen as much impressive work come out of Britain, but between the 60s and the 80s, British musicians added a lot to the field of musical techniques while popular American musicians just added a lot of songs to their back catalogs.

That's an overgeneralization.

In fact this whole thread is.

Yeah, there's a lot of shit pop coming out of England, but the rest of the world is not immune to that.

Last I checked Britney Spears, The Backstreet Boys, fucking N'Sync were American.

Crap is universal. If you look hard enough there is some pretty good shit in all that crap, and I'll stop the scatalogical metaphors now. but there is good music coming out of Britain, as much as there is coming out of the USA or Canada or whatever. You may just have to look harder for it. It probably isn't coming from the Major Labels.
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#47
October 03, 2009, 10:35:28 PM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on October 03, 2009, 09:29:54 PM
Clapton? Overrated because his songs are catchy.

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#48
October 03, 2009, 10:39:22 PM
I wouldn't have said Clapton's overrated, but apparently he is by Tim at least.
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DontSayBanana

#49
October 03, 2009, 10:48:47 PM
Quote from: Josephus on October 03, 2009, 10:33:29 PM
That's an overgeneralization.

In fact this whole thread is.

Yeah, there's a lot of shit pop coming out of England, but the rest of the world is not immune to that.

Last I checked Britney Spears, The Backstreet Boys, fucking N'Sync were American.

Crap is universal. If you look hard enough there is some pretty good shit in all that crap, and I'll stop the scatalogical metaphors now. but there is good music coming out of Britain, as much as there is coming out of the USA or Canada or whatever. You may just have to look harder for it. It probably isn't coming from the Major Labels.

:blink: I'm pretty sure that was the first point I made in my post. And the above may be an overgeneralization, but it was meant as such. I just feel that Brits did more to actually expand the genres themselves, while Americans mostly played around with elements that were already there.
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#50
October 04, 2009, 02:24:28 AM
I agree with The Brane that Lady Gaga is great.  Otherwise, the article is bologna.
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HisMajestyBOB

#51
October 04, 2009, 05:06:50 AM
The Brits never could really be trusted with music. The best British composer was a German, after all.
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The Brain

#52
October 04, 2009, 06:02:25 AM
Two faces of Lady Gaga's Poker Face:

Studio version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUxtQYFQeNY

Acoustic live version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwdXnlvUe3I

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Syt

#53
October 04, 2009, 07:33:46 AM
Quote from: The Brain on October 04, 2009, 06:02:25 AM
Two faces of Lady Gaga's Poker Face:

Studio version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUxtQYFQeNY


This is one of the worst songs I ever heard.
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#54
October 04, 2009, 08:12:59 AM
Quote from: The Brain on October 04, 2009, 06:02:25 AM
Two faces of Lady Gaga's Poker Face:

Studio version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUxtQYFQeNY

Acoustic live version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwdXnlvUe3I

Eh? Chick got some serious game with that voice of hers.....who knew.

The Brain

#55
October 04, 2009, 10:02:26 AM
Quote from: Syt on October 04, 2009, 07:33:46 AM
Quote from: The Brain on October 04, 2009, 06:02:25 AM
Two faces of Lady Gaga's Poker Face:

Studio version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUxtQYFQeNY


This is one of the worst songs I ever heard.

You just hate women.
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CountDeMoney

#56
October 04, 2009, 10:06:44 AM
Quote from: Josephus on October 03, 2009, 10:33:29 PM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on October 03, 2009, 09:29:54 PMThrough the 90s and 2000s, I haven't seen as much impressive work come out of Britain, but between the 60s and the 80s, British musicians added a lot to the field of musical techniques while popular American musicians just added a lot of songs to their back catalogs.

That's an overgeneralization.

In fact this whole thread is.

Yeah, there's a lot of shit pop coming out of England, but the rest of the world is not immune to that.

Last I checked Britney Spears, The Backstreet Boys, fucking N'Sync were American.

Crap is universal. If you look hard enough there is some pretty good shit in all that crap, and I'll stop the scatalogical metaphors now. but there is good music coming out of Britain, as much as there is coming out of the USA or Canada or whatever. You may just have to look harder for it. It probably isn't coming from the Major Labels.

Two words: O. Asis.

So fuck you, modern UK music.

DontSayBanana

#57
October 04, 2009, 10:09:05 AM
Quote from: Syt on October 04, 2009, 07:33:46 AM
This is one of the worst songs I ever heard.

Classic example of a good voice destroyed by studio overproduction. I know it's the "in" thing to do (even in some metal!), but I want to hear the vocals, not the synths and filters.
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garbon

#58
October 04, 2009, 12:16:07 PM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on October 04, 2009, 10:09:05 AM
Classic example of a good voice destroyed by studio overproduction. I know it's the "in" thing to do (even in some metal!), but I want to hear the vocals, not the synths and filters.

Lady Gaga wouldn't make sense at all without at that. It fits perfectly with her demeanor, attire, and look.
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#59
October 04, 2009, 12:24:20 PM
Quote from: garbon on October 04, 2009, 12:16:07 PM
Lady Gaga wouldn't make sense at all without at that. It fits perfectly with her demeanor, attire, and look.

And at least two of three of those have nothing to do with audio recording; concerts, maybe, but songs can always be tailored for performance onstage.

Off-Topic, what the hell is up with her and masks? Everything I've seen her in has her starting with a mask, losing it partway, and looking really uncomfortable while not wearing it; in that video for Poker Face, she even starts using her hand as a half-mask.
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