Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'

[MadImmortalMan]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32899516/ns/us_news-race_and_ethnicity/

Don't be silly, it has been explained that only the left plays the race card.

The right wing in America is a paradise of racial tolerance and understanding.  If they ask "who is barack obama?" and tell him to go back to Kenya, it is because they are both geniuinely curious to find out more about Barack's life story and because they want to encourage American tourism to Kenya and boost US diplomacy in Africa.

Let's not get crazy.

[Neil]

Edit:  And I disagree about the old gent.

If you are at a dinner party at that house of an African-American, and you ask your hostess for a drink, is that racially loaded?

If you're at a dinner party and you have to ask for a drink you should leave.

You're far too uptight.  A party should be judged by the quality of the company, not the quality of the service.

If you're not careful, you'll end up like Martinus.

[Sheilbh]

You're far too uptight.  A party should be judged by the quality of the company, not the quality of the service.

I agree with that.  But the most important job a host and hostess have is to check on people's glasses

[Razgovory]

It's pretty clear to me that a lot of the anger at Obama is that he's a black man, and he represents a real and fundamental change in the world for a lot of whites.

Hmm, so if Obama happened to be a conservative, do you think we rabid racist rightwingers would have the same reaction to him?

Don't know.  Alot of conservatives were fairly unhappy with Colon Powell.

[The Minsky Moment]

Alot of conservatives were fairly unhappy with Colon Powell.

It was a question of intestinal fortitude, but in the end, it was only the most firm, rear-guard elements of the movement that got gassed about it.

[Jaron]

Alot of conservatives were fairly unhappy with Colon Powell.

It was a question of intestinal fortitude, but in the end, it was only the most firm, rear-guard elements of the movement that got gassed about it.

[Berkut]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32899516/ns/us_news-race_and_ethnicity/

Don't be silly, it has been explained that only the left plays the race card.

Don't be silly, nobody has claimed that only the left plays the race card, only that it is the left playing it right now.

Calling someone a racist in an effort to ignore their argument is as reprehensible as actually *being* racist.

[Razgovory]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32899516/ns/us_news-race_and_ethnicity/

Don't be silly, it has been explained that only the left plays the race card.

Don't be silly, nobody has claimed that only the left plays the race card, only that it is the left playing it right now.

Calling someone a racist in an effort to ignore their argument is as reprehensible as actually *being* racist.

BS.  Take a look at Hans.

[Berkut]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32899516/ns/us_news-race_and_ethnicity/

Don't be silly, it has been explained that only the left plays the race card.

Don't be silly, nobody has claimed that only the left plays the race card, only that it is the left playing it right now.

Calling someone a racist in an effort to ignore their argument is as reprehensible as actually *being* racist.

BS.  Take a look at Hans.

Why would I want to do that?

[garbon]

Calling someone a racist in an effort to ignore their argument is as reprehensible as actually *being* racist.

Bullshit.

[Berkut]

Calling someone a racist in an effort to ignore their argument is as reprehensible as actually *being* racist.

Bullshit.

You are only saying that because I am white.

[garbon]

You are only saying that because I am white.

Yeah that's not as reprehensible as the hypothetical me that acts that way.

[Berkut]

You are only saying that because I am white.

Yeah that's not as reprehensible as the hypothetical me that acts that way.

Only because you know I am not serious about it.

[garbon]

Only because you know I am not serious about it.

If you were serious, I'd think it was a low move but I still won't concede that it is on par with actually being racist.  I'd pick a liar over a hater, any day.

[Malthus]

Actually being racist and calling someone racist when indifferent to whether they are or not are only just as reprehensible in the argument, because both indicate that the person is dismissing the other side's points for irrelevant reasons.

Actually being racist is more reprehensible because presumably a real racist is racist all the time, and so will behave in a racist manner towards people in other contexts.