Fallen Earth MMO

[Eddie Teach]

How do you feel about moving to Poland?

[The Brain]

How do you feel about moving to Poland?

[Grey Fox]

That is also something I don't like: why should I feel like I am in a race to max level?

Because you are. Maybe FE is the exception, but we've been waiting for one for a long time now.*

*Eve Online doesn't count.

[Martinus]

Actually, I would say it isn't juvenile but casual v. hard core mmo players.

The changes to WoW for example aren't because a majority of the players are teenagers and want easy stuff. It was because the majority of their player base couldn't devote 5 nights a week to raiding and so a large portion of the stuff their artists and game designers were creating were being used by a minority of the players.

So, they changed the game to make raiding more accessible. Had nothing to do with age groups and everything to do with playing time.

Yeah but whats the point? If everyone can get to the top with little effort, whats the point? Insta-gratification, that's what.

It isn't about instant gratification. It is about the fact that if you make a game so that someone needs to devote 3 months of raiding 5 days a week to reach the end game content, then someone who raids 1-2 nights a week must devote a year to do so - and this is something most people who have normal lives are not prepared to do. So if you make it so that the casuals can reach the end game content after about 1 month of playing, it means that the "hardcores" can do so within a week or so.

WoW is so successful because Blizzard realized that they should not be addressing the game to the "typical gamer" (tm) but to people who play casually - because there are more of them, they usually have more money and they are more loyal to a game than hyperactive late teen/young adult males with no stable jobs but a lot of free time.

[Tamas]

Fair enough. My point of servers populated with assholes stand though.

[Martinus]

Fair enough. My point of servers populated with assholes stand though.

Again, WoW made sure that the ability of assholes to ruin the fun for others is very limited. You have pretty much consensual world PvP, no real consequences for being killed in PvP other than some time lost (no looting or xp loss or gear status loss), you have no avatar collision, you have emblems from raids so people do not need to use DKP systems, etc. Most of these ideas have been decried at one point in time or another by the "hardcore" crowd as unrealistic, "dumbing down", "too easy" and whatnot. But it works because WoW is not a game for the hardcores.

Trying playing EVE (or the old UO) and you will see what assholes are capable of.

[Strix]

Trying playing EVE (or the old UO) and you will see what assholes are capable of.

Case in point. I ruled in the old UO!!

[crazy canuck]

They need to do something with oversea network speed. During peak times like right now, I get lag, which due to the FPS nature would destroy any hopes of PVPing.

I am getting bad lag in the crowded areas as well.

[crazy canuck]

*Eve Online doesn't count.

The more I play this the more I am reminded of eve. 

[crazy canuck]

Hopefully they fixed the lag problems after taking the server down last night.

[Seen]

So escapist is offering 15 day trials so im going to see this game, finally!

Silence in this thread suggests im wasting bandwidth dling though 

[crazy canuck]

I liked it.  Just dont have time to play it.

[Seen]

Any tips to get to know the game quickly?

[crazy canuck]

Its similar to Eve in feel.  You have to decide whether you will be a crafter, fighter or support person and based on that decision you will make your character and you will be assigned a particular starting area.

I only played the crafter for any length of time so I cant really  tell you anything about the other areas or styles of play.  The crafting system is very well developed (again similar to Eve).  The early quests pretty much teach you what you need to learn about the game.  One thing that is not immediately obvious is that there is a bank in the starting area and so dont be shy about doing a lot of gathering.  When your pack gets full just dump it in the bank for when you want to do some crafting.

[Drakken]

Just got my new bomb of a computer, and with the current draught in good PC games I wanted to try this one.

Now that it's been out for months, is it any good or was the type exagerated in typical Tamas-form?