Canadian Politics Thread

[Barrister]

Still think they should have gone with Trudeau Jr.

It's comments like this that show you have a disconnect with the reality of Canadian politics rivalled only by grallon.

[crazy canuck]

Ok, so this all seems much ado about nothing now.

Where does that leave Iggy?

[PRC]

Iggy sticks around for another year.  After that he resigns as Liberal leader.  If there is an election within the next year and when he inevitablely loses, he resigns as Liberal leader at that point.

[viper37]

Where does that leave Iggy?

he stays the leader up until he loses to the Conservatives.  Then he leaves.

Or, he's elected Prime Minister at some point and we're good for another 12 years of federal-provincial squabbles.

[Barrister]

A few days old, but,

Harper sings the Beatles with Yo Yo Ma:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOt2Qp0H9G8

I like it. 

[BuddhaRhubarb]

Where does that leave Iggy?

he stays the leader up until he loses to the Conservatives.  Then he leaves.

Or, he's elected Prime Minister at some point and we're good for another 12 years of federal-provincial squabbles.

[Josephus]

A few days old, but,

Harper sings the Beatles with Yo Yo Ma:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOt2Qp0H9G8

I like it. 

Any attempt to win back the artists I guess. "See, I may want to cut off funding...but I can sing!"

[Neil]

Any attempt to win back the artists I guess. "See, I may want to cut off funding...but I can sing!"

The artists are irrelevant.  Those sick-brained retards are strung out between the Liberals (those who were born into money), the NDP (those who were radicalized in college) and the Greens (those who are still in college).  Harper is doing what he always does:  Trying to appeal to ordinary people.  In fact, that's what got him into trouble with the artists to begin with.

[crazy canuck]

The more important story is that Iggy is sinking fast.  The Globe is running stories about where he went wrong.  the knives appear to be out before he even has a chance to fight an election and hand the Conservatives a majority.

But the question is, who else do they have who can become leader and reverse this slide?  My own view is that the answer is no one and they need to spend more time in the political wilderness without any prospect of forming government so they have time to remake themselves.

[Josephus]

The more important story is that Iggy is sinking fast.  The Globe is running stories about where he went wrong.  the knives appear to be out before he even has a chance to fight an election and hand the Conservatives a majority.

But the question is, who else do they have who can become leader and reverse this slide?  My own view is that the answer is no one and they need to spend more time in the political wilderness without any prospect of forming government so they have time to remake themselves.

Yup. I agree. In fact, Harper may regret that Iggy didn't topple his gov't. Since he'll probably never have a better chance of a majority government than he does now.

Future Liberal Leaders? Trudeau is waiting in the wings. But it won't happen yet. The Liberals can't afford another leadership convention, both financially and politically. Like you said, the Liberals are now in the wilderness the way the Cons were after Mulroney.

[crazy canuck]

Like you said, the Liberals are now in the wilderness the way the Cons were after Mulroney.

Not quite yet.  The Liberals still hold onto the thread of hope that they can bring a minority government down.  To be truly in the wilderness they need to suffer through being opposition (or the third party) with a Conservative party controlling Parliament.

[BuddhaRhubarb]

Like you said, the Liberals are now in the wilderness the way the Cons were after Mulroney.

Not quite yet.  The Liberals still hold onto the thread of hope that they can bring a minority government down.  To be truly in the wilderness they need to suffer through being opposition (or the third party) with a Conservative party controlling Parliament.

I could see them ending up as a third party. The funny part tho is that The Bloc would likely end up opposition. I don't see a "grassroots" "Liberal" party starting anytime soon either, like the various hayseed parties that raped the corpse of the PC party and started wearing their skin as a trophy.

[viper37]

But the question is, who else do they have who can become leader and reverse this slide?  My own view is that the answer is no one and they need to spend more time in the political wilderness without any prospect of forming government so they have time to remake themselves.

Denis Coderre.

[Malthus]

Like you said, the Liberals are now in the wilderness the way the Cons were after Mulroney.

Not quite yet.  The Liberals still hold onto the thread of hope that they can bring a minority government down.  To be truly in the wilderness they need to suffer through being opposition (or the third party) with a Conservative party controlling Parliament.

I could see them ending up as a third party. The funny part tho is that The Bloc would likely end up opposition. I don't see a "grassroots" "Liberal" party starting anytime soon either, like the various hayseed parties that raped the corpse of the PC party and started wearing their skin as a trophy.

Good turn of phrase, that.

[Neil]

But the question is, who else do they have who can become leader and reverse this slide?  My own view is that the answer is no one and they need to spend more time in the political wilderness without any prospect of forming government so they have time to remake themselves.

Denis Coderre.

Well, after Ignatief is gone, it will be Quebec's turn to be Liberal leader again.  I don't think Coderre can do it though.