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Israeli atrocities in Gaza

Started by DGuller, March 21, 2009, 10:18:33 PM

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Berkut

Psst. Guys.

My point doesn't really have much to do with how much rainfall Gaza gets.
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Quote from: Queequeg on March 24, 2009, 02:21:57 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on March 24, 2009, 01:24:58 PM

Deserts receive less than 250mm of annual preciptition; Gaza gets 200-400.  It's on the borderline.
Is this hugely different from most of Israel?  I'd imagine it is a pretty arid place, though efficient Israeli irrigation has no doubt changed the place alot from what it was 200 years ago.

Israeli has a very varied climate.  Parts get quite a bit of rainfall.  Parts of very dry, and are considered to be desert - for example, the Negev desert, near Gaza . . .
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Quote from: Berkut on March 24, 2009, 02:31:29 PM
Psst. Guys.

My point doesn't really have much to do with how much rainfall Gaza gets.

don't mess with the counter-troll.
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Fate

Quote from: Berkut on March 24, 2009, 02:31:29 PM
Psst. Guys.

My point doesn't really have much to do with how much rainfall Gaza gets.
No, your point was that Gaza is mostly desert, which is clearly false. Your intellectual dishonesty knows no bounds.

garbon

Quote from: Berkut on March 24, 2009, 02:19:40 PM
Then why are you arguing about it?

LA has a similar density to Gaza, and yet LA has huge areas where there are very few people at all.

So, to the extent that it is similar to Gaza (in a very gross sense - I suspect Gaza has a vastly great amount of population clumping than LA), it is a great example. To the extent that it supports the idea that Gaza is so densely populated that you cannot find anywhere to launch rockets that are not close to lots of civilians, it is a poor example.

I thought his point was that the density map did little to prove or disprove the point you were making, as it noted the uniform density of the region and didn't show the clustering of population centers in that region.  Basically he was just picking at the supporting image used.
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Quote from: garbon on March 24, 2009, 02:50:53 PM
I thought his point was that the density map did little to prove or disprove the point you were making, as it noted the uniform density of the region and didn't show the clustering of population centers in that region.  Basically he was just picking at the supporting image used.
Actually, I think it showed the opposite - that there were regions of higher and lower density.  It wasn't granular enough to show actual empty areas, but it definitely disproved any "uniformly densely populated" claims.
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Quote from: fahdiz on March 24, 2009, 03:49:29 PM
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Siege

Quote from: Fate on March 24, 2009, 02:42:47 PM
Quote from: Berkut on March 24, 2009, 02:31:29 PM
Psst. Guys.

My point doesn't really have much to do with how much rainfall Gaza gets.
No, your point was that Gaza is mostly desert, which is clearly false. Your intellectual dishonesty knows no bounds.

As far as population goes, Gaza is deserted.
There aren't any human beings in there.



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Quote from: Siege on March 24, 2009, 06:52:23 PM
Quote from: Fate on March 24, 2009, 02:42:47 PM
Quote from: Berkut on March 24, 2009, 02:31:29 PM
Psst. Guys.

My point doesn't really have much to do with how much rainfall Gaza gets.
No, your point was that Gaza is mostly desert, which is clearly false. Your intellectual dishonesty knows no bounds.

As far as population goes, Gaza is deserted.
There aren't any human beings in there.
Its one of the most densely populated areas on earth. 
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Quote from: Queequeg on March 24, 2009, 06:55:42 PM
Quote from: Siege on March 24, 2009, 06:52:23 PM
As far as population goes, Gaza is deserted.
There aren't any human beings in there.
Its one of the most densely populated areas on earth.

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garbon

Quote from: grumbler on March 24, 2009, 03:40:24 PM
Actually, I think it showed the opposite - that there were regions of higher and lower density.  It wasn't granular enough to show actual empty areas, but it definitely disproved any "uniformly densely populated" claims.

The region = Gaza. I suppose that the map did show that there are two different density areas in Gaza.
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