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Started by Ed Anger, August 04, 2009, 09:52:29 AM

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Eddie Teach

To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

Ed Anger

I'm going back to sleep. You people suck.
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lustindarkness

Quote from: Ed Anger on October 23, 2013, 12:19:25 PM
I'm going back to sleep. You people suck.

Very similar to what she said.
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merithyn

Quote from: lustindarkness on October 23, 2013, 12:08:02 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 23, 2013, 12:01:11 PM
WTF IS THIS SHIT

That's what she said.

:lol:

It does explain why he's all about the anal. It's the only way his wife gets anything out of it. ;)
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

derspiess

:pinch:  Ed, you gonna take that from Meri????
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

lustindarkness

Quote from: derspiess on October 23, 2013, 12:26:13 PM
:pinch:  Ed, you gonna take that from Meri????

She has a strap on? :unsure:

Anyway, Ed is taking a nap.
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Ed Anger

Quote from: derspiess on October 23, 2013, 12:26:13 PM
:pinch:  Ed, you gonna take that from Meri????

I don't listen to mouthy women.
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merithyn

Quote from: Ed Anger on October 23, 2013, 12:31:46 PM
Quote from: derspiess on October 23, 2013, 12:26:13 PM
:pinch:  Ed, you gonna take that from Meri????

I don't listen to mouthy women.

It's okay. :console: I'm sure she loves you anyway.
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

Ed Anger

I'm debating going nuclear on this forum. The national security team is holding a meeting. We are at Def Con 3.
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CountDeMoney

Meh, dick size doesn't matter for Ed;  as many kids as he'd had her pop out already, it's probably about as loose as a roast beef sammich dropped on the floor by now.

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DEF CON 2

derspiess

"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Malthus

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane—Marcus Aurelius

Ed Anger

That is what the French backup is for. Tightness.
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Ed Anger

Quote from: Malthus on October 23, 2013, 04:30:41 PM
You guys aren't nice.  :lol:

I violated my prime directive. I responded.
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Ed Anger

QuoteWisecracks abounded as news of Ohio State University's newly acquired armored military vehicle spread from blog to blog this month.

Would university police use the 38,000-pound vehicle to quash collegiate panty raids? Lay siege to the University of Michigan?

But peppered throughout the online riffing were bleak predictions about the rise of a government-sponsored police state. Some brought up the May 4, 1970, shootings at Kent State.

"Four dead in Ohio?" one person wrote. "That will be small fries when campus police start their show of force with this puppy."

To OSU Police Chief Paul Denton, such comments were gross overstatements by armchair critics who he guessed were unfamiliar with Columbus and Ohio State.

"People have a stereotype about what campus police are about," he said. "We look at ourselves as a city within a city."

At the center of the recent debate over the need for OSU's newest police vehicle is an issue that has been talked about for years: the continued militarization of local law-enforcement agencies. Experts who study the trend say more local agencies than ever routinely rely on paramilitary tactics and military equipment, much of it the aging detritus of two decades of war.

"We are in the midst of a historic transformation," Peter B. Kraska, an Eastern Kentucky University professor who studies police militarization, wrote in 2007. "Attempting to control the crime problem by routinely conducting police special-operations raids on people's private residences is strong evidence that the U.S. police, and crime-control efforts in general, have moved significantly down the militarization continuum."

This year, the American Civil Liberties Union began assessing the spread of police militarization and its impact on individual freedoms.

"The police and the military really have fundamentally different missions," said Kara Dansky, senior counsel for the ACLU's Center for Justice.

The ACLU is collecting records from police agencies in 25 states to gauge their reliance on federal funding, military surplus and paramilitary tactics such as those SWAT teams use. The agency believes that militarization has come at the cost of trampled rights and a greater risk of violence for citizens and the police.

Ohio is not part of the study, which should be completed early next year, Dansky said. Data collected so far suggest that "we do have reason to be concerned."

Columbus police have two armored vehicles called BearCats as well as a SWAT team and another tactical team that specializes in raiding fortified drug houses. Chief Kim Jacobs said police must ensure that such equipment and tactics are used wisely.

"That's my responsibility, that's Chief Denton's responsibility, to make sure that we don't overreact to possible threats or known threats with heavy-handed policing," she said. "You don't see us driving that armored vehicle on patrol. Most of the time it's parked, but when we need it, we need it."

Many police agencies would rather be over-prepared than ill-equipped, she said.

"Obviously you don't want tanks rolling down a residential thruway," said Sgt. Rich Weiner, a Police Division spokesman.

The BearCats are used in barricade and hostage situations, often as safeguards for officers and civilians.

The rise of crack cocaine sold by dealers in fortified houses fueled the need for SWAT-like tactics, battering rams and armored vehicles, Jacobs said.

Kathleen Bailey of the Near East Side Commission supports the police but said officers sometimes treat law-abiding residents as though they've done something wrong.

"I'm not naive," she said. "I'm always chasing people with drugs and catching people stealing or prostitutes, and if I didn't know the (good) people who live here, what would I be thinking?"

She wishes more officers would follow the lead of her precinct's community liaison officer, Theresa Kalous.

"She really knows the neighborhood, knows the people," Bailey said.

For OSU, adding the military-surplus Navistar MaxxPro MRAP, or Mine Resistant Ambush Protected vehicle, to his fleet was a no-brainer, Denton said. The MRAP can be used to safely transport officers and civilians during crises such as a campus shooting, to block restricted areas during large events, even to clear fallen trees after a storm, the chief said.

"Certainly, we're not going to run it across the Oval," he said. "There are no weapons on this thing. It's simply a personnel-protection vehicle."

The MRAP was free through a federal surplus program. The division can always get rid of it if maintenance becomes too expensive, he said.

He believes that OSU officers have a strong relationship and good dialogue with the university community.

"Just the fact that we have a particular piece of equipment or tactical resource, that's not going to change that at all," he said.


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