Israel-Hamas War 2023

[Razgovory]

He has got to be trolling, right? Right?

No, they really do honor these murderers.

[Razgovory]

The hypocrisy shit is so lame. It just tells me you have no actual substantial critique.

It shows that what people protest about is not what they are actually bothered about.

[crazy canuck]

He has got to be trolling, right? Right?

No, they really do honor these murderers.

Really, Otto makes a post about suspending the constitution of your country, and this is how you react? 

[The Minsky Moment]

If you look at the X page of the "The Bronx Anti-War Coalition" a typical post (excl. reposts of other comments) gets about 100-200 views and between zero an one repost

The exception is the Sinwar event which gets thousands of views and dozens of reposts, no doubt because it was picked up and published by international media outlets and much larger pro-Israel accounts.

Congratulations, you just gave vital oxygen to a couple dozen nutters in the Bronx desperate for attention.

[The Minsky Moment]

In contrast, X posts by right-wing antisemite Nick Fuentes routinely garner a couple million views, and thousands of reposts.

Moving along, nothing to see there. 

But seven guys waving Palestinian flags in South "Lënapehòkink" - holy shit, DECLARE MARTIAL LAW NOW

[Tonitrus]

That's the sound of one hand clapping.

I think it more likely that hand is doing something else.

[HVC]

That's the sound of one hand clapping.

I think it more likely that hand is doing something else.

Reads like he got bored and took ChatGPT for a spin

[Admiral Yi]

The hypocrisy shit is so lame. It just tells me you have no actual substantial critique.

Exactly the opposite.  Hypocrisy demonstrates that the accused party is basing his position not on a universal principle but on something more like tribalism.

[DGuller]

The hypocrisy shit is so lame. It just tells me you have no actual substantial critique.

What hypocrisy tells me is that the objection is not based on principles, but rather principles are assigned to the objection after the fact. 

The close cousin is selective prosecution; sure, you can point to the law that everyone subjected to it has broken, but that doesn't mean that the law is applied to further the rule of law.  Rather, the law is being used as a cudgel to attack people you have chosen to attack for other reasons.

[Razgovory]

He has got to be trolling, right? Right?

No, they really do honor these murderers.

Really, Otto makes a post about suspending the constitution of your country, and this is how you react? 

He's okay with fascism, you're okay with fascism...  It's just you guys are okay with extreme right wing authoritarians in different places.

[Razgovory]

In contrast, X posts by right-wing antisemite Nick Fuentes routinely garner a couple million views, and thousands of reposts.

Moving along, nothing to see there. 

But seven guys waving Palestinian flags in South "Lënapehòkink" - holy shit, DECLARE MARTIAL LAW NOW

They are on the same side.

[Valmy]

The hypocrisy shit is so lame. It just tells me you have no actual substantial critique.

What hypocrisy tells me is that the objection is not based on principles, but rather principles are assigned to the objection after the fact. 

The close cousin is selective prosecution; sure, you can point to the law that everyone subjected to it has broken, but that doesn't mean that the law is applied to further the rule of law.  Rather, the law is being used as a cudgel to attack people you have chosen to attack for other reasons.

Well a big part is the media over here just doesn't give a shit about Sudan. So they don't hear about it. Where as the Israel-Palestine things has dominated American politics for fifty fucking years. It would be hard to NOT know what is going on over there. It probably helped get Donald Trump elected. Sudan? Yemen? Not so much.

But that is beside the point. If I am a campaigner to save stray dogs, it doesn't mean I am some kind of evil hypocrit because I don't save stray cats. That's stupid.

[viper37]

And children are not special in war--Hamas has many children who fight for it, you aren't immune from being worthy of killing just because you are under the legal age of majority in the West. There's 12 year olds in Gaza who are as much a soldier as anyone else in the war.

Obviously, all American children should be slaughtered.  They will grow to become Republican soldiers under the Department of war.  They aren't immune from being worthy of killing just because they are under the legal of majority.

The Republicans already want to send some of them to death row anyway and don't care about the poor ones health or education.  

With the end of airport security measures and tourist visits at an all time low, now is a good time to strike. They would minimize collateral damage.  Ideally, strike an airport in South Carolina or Florida to maximize the chances of killing the good ones.  I guess Venezuela could do it with some help.  Or launch a suicide boat to one of those cruise boat ports.

No big deal.  Just casualties of war, totally worth it, apparently.

[Admiral Yi]

But that is beside the point. If I am a campaigner to save stray dogs, it doesn't mean I am some kind of evil hypocrit because I don't save stray cats. That's stupid.

If you like dogs and are indifferent to cats that does not make you a hypocrite.  It's only when you claim you love all animals and ask us to join you on the grounds that all decent human beings love all animals that you become a hypocrite.

[OttoVonBismarck]

Viper memeing isn't that interesting, but the simple fact is no one contested when we killed the Hitler Youth 14 year old soldiers etc. That's what Gaza is. Palestinians are effectively Nazis, obviously not an identical ideology, but it's an entire culture built around hatred of (coincidentally like the Nazis) Jews, from a very young age. And their kids have been killing Jews for decades.

Their women frequently do as well btw, this mythology that there's tons of "innocent" women and children in Gaza is just that, a pleasant fiction leftists tell to hide the fact Palestinians are evil monsters in thrall to evil ideology.