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US election 2020 poll

Started by Maladict, April 18, 2020, 07:33:29 AM

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Who would you vote for?

US: Biden
25 (44.6%)
US: Trump
1 (1.8%)
US: Third party
2 (3.6%)
US: Null vote / won't vote
3 (5.4%)
ROTW: Biden
22 (39.3%)
ROTW: Trump
1 (1.8%)
ROTW: Third party
0 (0%)
ROTW: Null vote / won't vote
2 (3.6%)

Total Members Voted: 55

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Sophie Scholl

#30
April 19, 2020, 06:38:56 PM
Not everyone lives in a swing state. A lot of votes for President are more or less wasted/unnecessary due to the way the system is set up. Appealing to the need for down ballot voting in non-swing states I think is a much better usage of time and effort than making blanket statements condemning anyone who doesn't vote Biden.
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Oexmelin

#31
April 19, 2020, 07:06:53 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 19, 2020, 06:01:27 PM
Something that appeals to their core values I would say.

What would those be? I mean - that would convince them in voting Democrat/against Trump.



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Oexmelin

#32
April 19, 2020, 07:13:59 PM
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on April 19, 2020, 06:38:56 PM
Not everyone lives in a swing state. A lot of votes for President are more or less wasted/unnecessary due to the way the system is set up. Appealing to the need for down ballot voting in non-swing states I think is a much better usage of time and effort than making blanket statements condemning anyone who doesn't vote Biden.

I agree as far as down ballot voting is concerned, or for populations for whom voting already comes with significant investment of resources. However, results are being, and will be, very much part of the political rhetoric in the upcoming election. There is a not insignificant possibility that Trump will undermine the very legitimacy of the election, and the legitimacy of the results. In these circumstances, there is a great symbolic value in sending numbers that overwhelmingly demonstrate a rejection of the GOP, and a greater symbolic value for conservatives to actually make that decision.
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Razgovory

#33
April 19, 2020, 07:16:53 PM
It will also piss off Trump a great deal if he wins the electoral college and loses the popular vote again.  And honestly, that about as good as we are going to get.
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derspiess

#34
April 19, 2020, 08:28:59 PM
Trump will lose, and we'll trade one crazy geezer for another.
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Oexmelin

#35
April 19, 2020, 08:33:02 PM
You don't see a difference between the two?
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Monoriu

#36
April 19, 2020, 08:34:38 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on April 19, 2020, 07:16:53 PM
It will also piss off Trump a great deal if he wins the electoral college and loses the popular vote again.  And honestly, that about as good as we are going to get.

I think the voters will be pissed, not Trump  ;)

Habbaku

#37
April 19, 2020, 08:51:12 PM
Quote from: Oexmelin on April 19, 2020, 08:33:02 PM
You don't see a difference between the two?

They're both crazy geezers, at least.
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Barrister

#38
April 19, 2020, 09:07:25 PM
Quote from: Oexmelin on April 19, 2020, 07:13:59 PM
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on April 19, 2020, 06:38:56 PM
Not everyone lives in a swing state. A lot of votes for President are more or less wasted/unnecessary due to the way the system is set up. Appealing to the need for down ballot voting in non-swing states I think is a much better usage of time and effort than making blanket statements condemning anyone who doesn't vote Biden.

I agree as far as down ballot voting is concerned, or for populations for whom voting already comes with significant investment of resources. However, results are being, and will be, very much part of the political rhetoric in the upcoming election. There is a not insignificant possibility that Trump will undermine the very legitimacy of the election, and the legitimacy of the results. In these circumstances, there is a great symbolic value in sending numbers that overwhelmingly demonstrate a rejection of the GOP, and a greater symbolic value for conservatives to actually make that decision.

What if you're a right-of-centre voter who wants to demonstrate a rejection of Trump, but not necessarily the GOP?

If I was in a non-swing state (and if I was an American) I would vote for some kind of third-party or write-in candidate in order to send some kind of signal about my preferences.

If I was in a swing state I would vote for Biden.
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Valmy

#39
April 19, 2020, 11:03:26 PM
Quote from: derspiess on April 19, 2020, 08:28:59 PM
Trump will lose, and we'll trade one crazy geezer for another.

Well here is hoping. Biden is a different kind of crazy at least.
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DGuller

#40
April 19, 2020, 11:14:58 PM
Quote from: Valmy on April 19, 2020, 11:03:26 PM
Quote from: derspiess on April 19, 2020, 08:28:59 PM
Trump will lose, and we'll trade one crazy geezer for another.

Well here is hoping. Biden is a different kind of crazy at least.
What kind of crazy is Biden?

Valmy

#41
April 19, 2020, 11:20:20 PM
Quote from: DGuller on April 19, 2020, 11:14:58 PM
Quote from: Valmy on April 19, 2020, 11:03:26 PM
Quote from: derspiess on April 19, 2020, 08:28:59 PM
Trump will lose, and we'll trade one crazy geezer for another.

Well here is hoping. Biden is a different kind of crazy at least.
What kind of crazy is Biden?

He says weird shit and Bidens about but when it comes to actual policy and running the government he seems to know his stuff. The people who know him personally seem to like him and respect him, more than I can say for Donald.

I am way more concerned about him leading the party through an election than I am him leading an administration. I think he will do fine and basically be Obama's 3rd term.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

DGuller

#42
April 19, 2020, 11:28:49 PM
Quote from: Valmy on April 19, 2020, 11:20:20 PM
He says weird shit and Bidens about but when it comes to actual policy and running the government he seems to know his stuff. The people who know him personally seem to like him and respect him, more than I can say for Donald.

I am way more concerned about him leading the party through an election than I am him leading an administration. I think he will do fine and basically be Obama's 3rd term.
Saying weird shit makes you crazy now?

Valmy

#43
April 19, 2020, 11:30:54 PM
Quote from: DGuller on April 19, 2020, 11:28:49 PM
Saying weird shit makes you crazy now?

Makes you sound crazy. Him going off about his hairy legs turning blond in the sun.

But crazy in a folksy "ol Uncle Joe" kind of way.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

DGuller

#44
April 20, 2020, 12:15:00 AM
What this sounds like to me is an over-eagerness to accept false balance narratives.
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