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US election 2020 poll

Started by Maladict, April 18, 2020, 07:33:29 AM

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Who would you vote for?

US: Biden
25 (44.6%)
US: Trump
1 (1.8%)
US: Third party
2 (3.6%)
US: Null vote / won't vote
3 (5.4%)
ROTW: Biden
22 (39.3%)
ROTW: Trump
1 (1.8%)
ROTW: Third party
0 (0%)
ROTW: Null vote / won't vote
2 (3.6%)

Total Members Voted: 55

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Eddie Teach

#15
April 19, 2020, 02:22:14 AM
Voting for anyone not named Donald Trump(or not voting at all) does literally nothing to help Trump get elected.
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Sophie Scholl

#16
April 19, 2020, 02:55:16 AM
I've voted third party in every Presidential election I've been old enough to vote in as I live in New York State and know it will go blue. I am unsure if this is the year I change that though if only to express my extreme hate of the current occupant of the White House. I really don't like Biden, but I'll be damned if Trump staying won't be immensely worse for everyone.
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The Minsky Moment

#17
April 19, 2020, 12:31:31 PM
At risk of restating the obvious tautological point, doing anything other than voting for Biden in November will make it incrementally more likely that Trump will win, as opposed to the alternative of voting for Biden. If one is OK with that, OK but them's the hard facts.
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fromtia

#18
April 19, 2020, 01:16:55 PM
A quick disclaimer, after 23 years of living in the United States, I still have not become a citizen so I won't actually be voting. If I were however it would be Biden.

I liked Sanders, Warren and Yang to a lesser extent and hoped they would all do well in the primary. I don't care for Biden at all and there's some obvious problems with him as a candidate, but we have to get Trump out of the whitehouse as a matter of urgency and the Republicans as far away from government as we can wherever possible.
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DGuller

#19
April 19, 2020, 02:13:59 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on April 19, 2020, 12:31:31 PM
At risk of restating the obvious tautological point, doing anything other than voting for Biden in November will make it incrementally more likely that Trump will win, as opposed to the alternative of voting for Biden. If one is OK with that, OK but them's the hard facts.
Sorry, the point may be tautological, but it's not contrarian enough, so it can't be right.

Eddie Teach

#20
April 19, 2020, 02:51:07 PM
Attacking neutrals is a good way to create opponents.
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

garbon

#21
April 19, 2020, 04:38:55 PM
Quote from: Eddie Teach on April 19, 2020, 02:51:07 PM
Attacking neutrals is a good way to create opponents.

Don't see how. They are already not voting for Biden. They are childish if pointing out the issues with that makes them spite vote for Trump.
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Eddie Teach

#22
April 19, 2020, 05:01:03 PM
Well, I was making a broader point, but even in this particular case that's hardly a refutation. People ARE childish.
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Admiral Yi

#23
April 19, 2020, 05:05:39 PM
I think the broader point Eddie was making is that shaming is often not the most effective means of persuasion.

Oexmelin

#24
April 19, 2020, 05:10:53 PM
At this point, what would be the best means of persuasion?
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Josquius

#25
April 19, 2020, 05:16:48 PM
Maths?
Biden = 2 votes against Trump
Other = 1 vote against Trump
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Habbaku

#26
April 19, 2020, 05:34:10 PM
If someone is not persuaded to vote against Trump (not just abstaining, but against) at this point, there isn't much that will convince them.
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Sheilbh

#27
April 19, 2020, 05:41:47 PM
Quote from: Tyr on April 19, 2020, 05:16:48 PM
Maths?
Biden = 2 votes against Trump
Other = 1 vote against Trump
Exactly.
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Admiral Yi

#28
April 19, 2020, 06:01:27 PM
Quote from: Oexmelin on April 19, 2020, 05:10:53 PM
At this point, what would be the best means of persuasion?

Something that appeals to their core values I would say.

mongers

#29
April 19, 2020, 06:32:31 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on April 19, 2020, 12:31:31 PM
At risk of restating the obvious tautological point, doing anything other than voting for Biden in November will make it incrementally more likely that Trump will win, as opposed to the alternative of voting for Biden. If one is OK with that, OK but them's the hard facts.

It really isn't that difficult is it, JR.
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