Coronavirus Sars-CoV-2/Covid-19 Megathread

[Maladict]

Not sure if this was posted before
https://news.gallup.com/poll/348719/billion-unwilling-covid-vaccine.aspx

Malthus will be vindicated by human stupidity.

[Razgovory]

I have a sometimes date who is a respiraotry therapist. She works pretty much full time on patients with respiratory diseases, so needles to say, that has been mostly covid.

I saw her last week and asked her about a "friend of a friend" who had covid and was put on a ventilator. She kind of sighed and said something like "Well, every case is different....but that is still really, really not good".

She said even now putting a covid patient on a ventilator is usually a last ditch effort, and the mortality rate is still very, very high for those who go onto a vent. The damage the disease does to your lungs is so extensive that by the time you are putting someone on a ventilator, the vent itself does so much damage it is often not recoverable. Before covid, a vent was a way to let the lungs "take a break" and hopefully heal. But covid is just too damaging and a ventilator is rarely used anymore because by the time you need one, the damage is too great and the vent itself just makes it worse.

So I am super glad, after hearing that, to hear he is better! Freaking awesome.

Thanks. It was touch and go for the first week. They gave him some super steroid to lessen the inflammation in his lungs, and he started to recover. He's probably going home by Thursday or Friday. He'll have oxygen he'll have to carry around, and he won't be "normal" for a while. In ideal circumstances, they would keep him in hospital a bit longer, but right now in Toronto, there's a shortage of beds.  His respiratory doctor basically said, "by and large you're trending in the right direction, and all we're doing now is monitoring your oxygen levels. If you reach [enter number here], there's no need to keep you."

My brother this morning was happy because he was able to walk to the bathroom and back to bed without needing supplemental oxygen. First time in two weeks.

Thank God.

[Zoupa]

Thank modern medicine, health care workers, family members and Hod as a distant fourth. 

[Valmy]

Thank modern medicine, health care workers, family members and Hod as a distant fourth. 

It was the mercy of the blessed Virgin Gary.

But indeed very glad for all the good news.

[Berkut]

Thank modern medicine, health care workers, family members and Hod as a distant fourth. 

Indeed.

[mongers]

Thanks. It was touch and go for the first week. They gave him some super steroid to lessen the inflammation in his lungs, and he started to recover. He's probably going home by Thursday or Friday. He'll have oxygen he'll have to carry around, and he won't be "normal" for a while. In ideal circumstances, they would keep him in hospital a bit longer, but right now in Toronto, there's a shortage of beds.  His respiratory doctor basically said, "by and large you're trending in the right direction, and all we're doing now is monitoring your oxygen levels. If you reach [enter number here], there's no need to keep you."

My brother this morning was happy because he was able to walk to the bathroom and back to bed without needing supplemental oxygen. First time in two weeks.

That's great news Jos. 

[Sheilbh]

Johnson's announced there will be (the inevitable) public inquiry into the handling of coronavirus. It will have legal powers to compel evidence - and will start in Spring 2022. Scope is still being decided as it needs to be negotiated with all four nations.

[Tamas]

Johnson's announced there will be (the inevitable) public inquiry into the handling of coronavirus. It will have legal powers to compel evidence - and will start in Spring 2022. Scope is still being decided as it needs to be negotiated with all four nations.

Good thinking, get it done while he has the most power to influence it.

[Sheilbh]

Good thinking, get it done while he has the most power to influence it.

Reactions to it are likely already pre-ordained from it was a white-wash/coverup/complete vindication.

It's a statutory public inquiry so independent. Apparently it will set its own timetable both for hearing evidence (and the order it hears evidence) and publication. I would be astonished if it's published before the 2023 election. No idea on the chair yet but typically in the UK it's a judge.

[Agelastus]

Good thinking, get it done while he has the most power to influence it.

Reactions to it are likely already pre-ordained from it was a white-wash/coverup/complete vindication.

It's a statutory public inquiry so independent. Apparently it will set its own timetable both for hearing evidence (and the order it hears evidence) and publication. I would be astonished if it's published before the 2023 election. No idea on the chair yet but typically in the UK it's a judge.

I can't find just the clip, but there's (yet another) great bit from Yes Minister about how to ensure independent public inquiries come out with the result you want.

Watch from 4:25 (where Hacker first asks about "rigging it") -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLU-Evdlt-A

[Josquius]

Good thinking, get it done while he has the most power to influence it.

Reactions to it are likely already pre-ordained from it was a white-wash/coverup/complete vindication.

It's a statutory public inquiry so independent. Apparently it will set its own timetable both for hearing evidence (and the order it hears evidence) and publication. I would be astonished if it's published before the 2023 election. No idea on the chair yet but typically in the UK it's a judge.

Its going to find that it was a complete disaster and obvious errors were made but its irrelevant as that was years ago and they just found a boat with 12 Iraqi refugees coming in to Suffolk from Holland-  THEY'RE FLANKING US!

[viper37]

It's a statutory public inquiry so independent.

Does it mean they haven't written their report yet and only receive evidence to vindicate the public's feeling of justice served?

I think it just means the report will be acknowledged by the government, then tabled to be forgotten.

[Tamas]

We are at around 130k deaths aren't we. At least half of that was avoidable with sound policies. If there was ever an "independent" inquiry where no effort is going to be spared to make sure no responsibility or blame is put on individuals, it's this one.

[Legbiter]

We are at around 130k deaths aren't we. At least half of that was avoidable with sound policies. If there was ever an "independent" inquiry where no effort is going to be spared to make sure no responsibility or blame is put on individuals, it's this one.

If you want to get a good roundup of the total expert failure on covid a scroll through this aggregation Covid One Year Ago twitter account gives an educational overview.

https://twitter.com/YearCovid

In a UK context this exchange is particularly cringe to watch with hindsight. https://mobile.twitter.com/YearCovid/status/1371746810914607105

Compare and contrast the dumb model against the expert.

[Oexmelin]

Anti-vaxxers, anti-maskers ready to wear masks to protect themselves against vaccinated people...

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/02/us/miami-centner-academy-coronavirus-vaccine.html?fbclid=IwAR2DS9S0AVlx3LoaFVwj3LnDtxElIk6RMqxIFT9zAoOmtkOxRCWI8AL6Xy8