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Started by Syt, January 18, 2020, 09:36:09 AM

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Maladict

Looks like there will be a national ban on fireworks this New Year's.

I totally see why, the hospitals just can't handle all those injuries this year.
But it's not going to go down well, and the illegal fireworks sales will be even higher than usual.

Richard Hakluyt

Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 09, 2020, 08:22:01 AM
Quote from: Sheilbh on November 09, 2020, 08:07:25 AM
It's enough

Is that typical for vaccines?  1/10 chance it doesn't work doesn't seem like a sound basis to resume normal life.

It breaks the chain of transmission. Let us assume a R rate of 3.0 and that the vaccine makes 80% of the population immune; the R rate is reduced to 0.6 (assuming we drop all other preventative measures) and the number of people infected drops by 40% per cycle. After a few months it doesn't matter to an individual whether the vaccine has worked for them or not, there will be nobody to catch it from.

Syt

Oh, right wing anti-vaxxers will love this. Biontech, the company that developed the vaccine, is a German startup founded by Özlem Türeci and Uğur Şahin whose parents migrated to Germany from Turkey. :D

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HVC

Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.


FunkMonk

So this is the hopeful period before we all realize the vaccine turns people into mindless zombies, right?  :ph34r:
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merithyn

Quote from: Maximus on November 07, 2020, 01:11:18 PM
So my Dad tested positive today.

He's in his mid 80s and in the past five years has beaten cancer and for the last two has been living with an undiagnosed lung disease (he's declined to take the biopsies which might have diagnosed it). So who knows what will happen, but there's no way I can go see him even if I could get up there.

It's also the first case in the care home he's in and one of the first in the community so that's going to suck for a lot of people.

I'm so sorry, Max. :(

He's a good man who's lived a very good life. I know that's not going to make it hurt any less. Your family and you are in my heart. :(
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on November 09, 2020, 09:21:19 AM
It breaks the chain of transmission. Let us assume a R rate of 3.0 and that the vaccine makes 80% of the population immune; the R rate is reduced to 0.6 (assuming we drop all other preventative measures) and the number of people infected drops by 40% per cycle. After a few months it doesn't matter to an individual whether the vaccine has worked for them or not, there will be nobody to catch it from.

Is that what 90% effective means?  I thought it might mean a 90% of normal chance of transmission per contact.  Honest question.

And if it means 90% of people have immunity and 10% don't, is there a way to tell if you're in the 10%?

DGuller

Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 09, 2020, 07:47:06 PM
Is that what 90% effective means?  I thought it might mean a 90% of normal chance of transmission per contact.  Honest question.
That interpretation would mean that a completely useless vaccine is 100% effective.  :hmm:
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And if it means 90% of people have immunity and 10% don't, is there a way to tell if you're in the 10%?
If you get sick, you're probably in the 10%.

mongers

A few weeks back I saw the head of the pharmacy industry trade body say there are significant manufacturing and logistical challenges faced by coronavirus vaccines, he estimated 12-17 billion doses would be required, whereas the largest annual production so far is the polio vaccine, at just 450 million doses a year. 
 
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Josephus

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Fauci believes, in America at least, distribution could begin by end of year.

To think, Trump would have loved this news last Monday.

Trump of course is now saying the FDA and Pfizer deliberately held back the news until after the election
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HVC

Quote from: mongers on November 09, 2020, 08:51:34 PM
A few weeks back I saw the head of the pharmacy industry trade body say there are significant manufacturing and logistical challenges faced by coronavirus vaccines, he estimated 12-17 billion doses would be required, whereas the largest annual production so far is the polio vaccine, at just 450 million doses a year. 
 

Why would we need double the world population in doses? And in any regarding the manufacturing ability of the world has increased since the days of the polio vaccine.
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

Admiral Yi

I've heard talk on NPR about multiple rounds of shots.

mongers

Quote from: HVC on November 09, 2020, 09:38:50 PM
Quote from: mongers on November 09, 2020, 08:51:34 PM
A few weeks back I saw the head of the pharmacy industry trade body say there are significant manufacturing and logistical challenges faced by coronavirus vaccines, he estimated 12-17 billion doses would be required, whereas the largest annual production so far is the polio vaccine, at just 450 million doses a year. 
 

Why would we need double the world population in doses? And in any regarding the manufacturing ability of the world has increased since the days of the polio vaccine.

Just a guess mind you, but maybe to protect nearly everyone on the planet?? :unsure:

The 450 million is the current annual production for polio vaccine.
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"