Meanwhile in the Labour Party...

[Gups]

It is a bit like his remain campaigning 

But why is he wearing his mask like that, especially with the paparazzi flocking around him? Using Occam's razor we can only conclude he is a fucking idiot.

I think we all came to that conclusion a while ago.

[Gups]

Interesting point on the mask thing.
The last I heard of Corbyn in the news it was him getting in trouble for a houseparty despite lockdown.
He does strike as the type to get a bit wrapped up with the left wing minority of the covidiots doesn't he...

His brother is a leader of that group

[The Brain]

It seems a bit weird to me to remain active in an antisemitic party like Labour. My dealbreakers when it comes to political parties are way milder than widespread antisemitism in leading circles. If they genuinely feel that they can reform the rotten structure then good luck, and I mean it. I remain skeptical that such a thing is possible though. If the UK is anything like Sweden many people in the mainstream Left really dislike Jews.

[Richard Hakluyt]

A consequence of first-past-the-post; both the tories and Labour are huge coalitions rather than parties and both have unsavoury elements within their ranks.

[Josquius]

Massively disagree that labour is an antisemitic party.
That this whole anti semitism mess is even happening should be proof of that.
Most people on the left in my experience don't care about Jewish people. It's just not an issue in the 21st century.
Israel /Palestine isn't even a particularly core issue to most. There's other closer to home things to worry about.

[Razgovory]

Massively disagree that labour is an antisemitic party.
That this whole anti semitism mess is even happening should be proof of that.
Most people on the left in my experience don't care about Jewish people. It's just not an issue in the 21st century.
Israel /Palestine isn't even a particularly core issue to most. There's other closer to home things to worry about.

I agree that most people on the left don't care about Jewish people which is why significant minority in the labor party is allowed to be actively antisemetic.  We have a similar situation among the right concerning minorities.

[chipwich]

Most people on the left in my experience don't care about Jewish people. It's just not an issue in the 21st century.

This is everything you need to know about the British left and especially Tyr.

[Josquius]

Most people on the left in my experience don't care about Jewish people. It's just not an issue in the 21st century.

This is everything you need to know about the British left and especially Tyr.

That they aren't particularly obsessed with Israel?
Not sure mentioning one global issue that isn't top of the priority list gives you all that much of an insight.

[crazy canuck]

Most people on the left in my experience don't care about Jewish people. It's just not an issue in the 21st century.

This is everything you need to know about the British left and especially Tyr.

I am pretty sure you would also need to know about labour's position on taxation policy, labour rights, you know stuff that matters to the labour party.

[Eddie Teach]

Most people on the left in my experience don't care about Jewish people. It's just not an issue in the 21st century.

This is everything you need to know about the British left and especially Tyr.

Maybe if you're Bibi Netanyahu.

[Josquius]

Massively disagree that labour is an antisemitic party.
That this whole anti semitism mess is even happening should be proof of that.
Most people on the left in my experience don't care about Jewish people. It's just not an issue in the 21st century.
Israel /Palestine isn't even a particularly core issue to most. There's other closer to home things to worry about.

I agree that most people on the left don't care about Jewish people which is why significant minority in the labor party is allowed to be actively antisemetic.  We have a similar situation among the right concerning minorities.

Ish.
That it was barely imagined that it could even be an issue is definitely core to the problem.
But that it is a significant minority who hold these beliefs... Not really.
Let's not forget the core of the issue was less about any anti semitic words or actions in themselves and more that the whole process for reporting and dealing with these allegations was a complete mess.

[Razgovory]

Yes, really.  I don't think you realize you are digging yourself into a hole here.

Most people on the left in my experience don't care about Jewish people.

let's not forget the core of the issue was less about any anti semitic words or actions in themselves and more that the whole process for reporting and dealing with these allegations was a complete mess.

I mean, you really don't get it, do you? 

[Admiral Yi]

"Don't care about" can have different meanings Raz.  Gotcha not awarded.

[crazy canuck]

Yes, really.  I don't think you realize you are digging yourself into a hole here.

Most people on the left in my experience don't care about Jewish people.

let's not forget the core of the issue was less about any anti semitic words or actions in themselves and more that the whole process for reporting and dealing with these allegations was a complete mess.

I mean, you really don't get it, do you?

Dont care about in this context means, could not care less whether someone is Jewish or not and could not care less what is happening with the state of Israel.  the UK has other things to worry about and really why should anyone care whether someone else is Jewish. 

At least if I am reading Tyr right.

[Razgovory]

Yes, really.  I don't think you realize you are digging yourself into a hole here.

Most people on the left in my experience don't care about Jewish people.

let's not forget the core of the issue was less about any anti semitic words or actions in themselves and more that the whole process for reporting and dealing with these allegations was a complete mess.

I mean, you really don't get it, do you?

Dont care about in this context means, could not care less whether someone is Jewish or not and could not care less what is happening with the state of Israel.  the UK has other things to worry about and really why should anyone care whether someone else is Jewish. 

At least if I am reading Tyr right.

This is a theme you see with people in the US concerning black people.  "I'm not racist!  I don't see color!"