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Started by Maladict, October 07, 2019, 06:37:53 AM

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FunkMonk

#195
October 14, 2019, 06:01:36 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on October 14, 2019, 05:47:39 PM
So we betrayed the Kurds and still ended up on worse terms with the Turks.  We strengthened ISIS, made the US look weak and unreliable, and generally pissed off the entire world.
What a brilliant move by Mr. Four Dimensional Chess Stable Genius.

But forever ever ever ever war
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Richard Hakluyt

#196
October 15, 2019, 02:06:05 AM
He really has excelled himself this time.

Tamas

#197
October 15, 2019, 08:24:12 AM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on October 14, 2019, 05:47:39 PM
So we betrayed the Kurds and still ended up on worse terms with the Turks.  We strengthened ISIS, made the US look weak and unreliable, and generally pissed off the entire world.
What a brilliant move by Mr. Four Dimensional Chess Stable Genius.

The Art of the Deal.

Razgovory

#198
October 15, 2019, 08:43:54 AM
This is a remarkable fuck-up.  I'm genuinely impressed by how Trump caused a catastrophe with so little effort.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Valmy

#199
October 15, 2019, 08:46:09 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 15, 2019, 08:43:54 AM
This is a remarkable fuck-up.  I'm genuinely impressed by how Trump caused a catastrophe with so little effort.

I am just glad there wasn't a massacre.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

mongers

#200
October 15, 2019, 09:10:13 AM
Quote from: Valmy on October 15, 2019, 08:46:09 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 15, 2019, 08:43:54 AM
This is a remarkable fuck-up.  I'm genuinely impressed by how Trump caused a catastrophe with so little effort.

I am just glad there wasn't a massacre, yet.

FYP
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

FunkMonk

#201
October 15, 2019, 09:22:00 AM
but we gotta end these endless wars guys

endlesasssssss
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Habbaku

#202
October 15, 2019, 09:42:43 AM
Quote from: FunkMonk on October 15, 2019, 09:22:00 AM
but we gotta end these endless wars guys

endlesasssssss

:huh: Yes. Yes, we do.
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Valmy

#203
October 15, 2019, 09:45:44 AM
When we switch to electric cars the Middle East will go back to having very little strategic value...at least I hope.

That might help.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Tamas

#204
October 15, 2019, 09:57:04 AM
Quote from: Valmy on October 15, 2019, 09:45:44 AM
When we switch to electric cars the Middle East will go back to having very little strategic value...at least I hope.

That might help.

Yeah, not until you switch to electric freight ships and warships and planes. And electric sources for plastic

mongers

#205
October 15, 2019, 09:59:07 AM
Quote from: Valmy on October 15, 2019, 09:45:44 AM
When we switch to electric cars the Middle East will go back to having very little strategic value...at least I hope.

That might help.

And electric passenger jets and electric/solar/sail driven shipping and non-oil plastic and roads not built of asphalt (concrete no substitute) and etc etc etc.    :P
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

Valmy

#206
October 15, 2019, 10:03:39 AM
Quote from: Tamas on October 15, 2019, 09:57:04 AM
Quote from: Valmy on October 15, 2019, 09:45:44 AM
When we switch to electric cars the Middle East will go back to having very little strategic value...at least I hope.

That might help.

Yeah, not until you switch to electric freight ships and warships and planes. And electric sources for plastic

We still produce a shitload of petroleum in the US. A simple significant decline in demand will tank prices and dramatically reduce its value as a strategic resource. We don't need to completely remove petroleum from our economy.

As for plastics they are so destructive for the environment I will be shocked if we do not find substitutes soon.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Valmy

#207
October 15, 2019, 10:08:00 AM
Besides electric shipping is no big deal design wise, just that massive cargo ships are expensive to build. I don't know much about planes but I think it might even be possible to move beyond the height of 1940s technology someday.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Maximus

#208
October 15, 2019, 10:58:18 AM
Quote from: Valmy on October 15, 2019, 10:08:00 AM
Besides electric shipping is no big deal design wise, just that massive cargo ships are expensive to build. I don't know much about planes but I think it might even be possible to move beyond the height of 1940s technology someday.
https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-takes-delivery-of-first-all-electric-experimental-aircraft

crazy canuck

#209
October 15, 2019, 11:01:46 AM
Quote from: Valmy on October 15, 2019, 10:08:00 AM
Besides electric shipping is no big deal design wise, just that massive cargo ships are expensive to build. I don't know much about planes but I think it might even be possible to move beyond the height of 1940s technology someday.

https://www.timescolonist.com/business/harbour-air-starts-multi-year-conversion-to-electric-powered-flight-1.23847737
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