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US abandoning Kurds in Syria

Started by Maladict, October 07, 2019, 06:37:53 AM

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FunkMonk

#180
October 11, 2019, 03:36:09 PM
We're sending more troops to Saudi now too

"BuT foReVEr EndlESs WarS"
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Valmy

#181
October 11, 2019, 10:49:21 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on October 11, 2019, 03:36:09 PM
We're sending more troops to Saudi now too

"BuT foReVEr EndlESs WarS"

As I said to chipwich, I am not entire unsympathetic to his perspective but he is just wrong. We are not doing this to stop being the world policemen. We are going to continue to do so, we just made our job harder and betrayed a loyal ally.

It is especially infuriating to me since Donald loves to take 100% of the credit for fighting the Kurds did and now he opens them up to a massacre.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

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mongers

#182
October 13, 2019, 03:53:23 PM Last Edit: October 13, 2019, 07:10:23 PM by mongers
Quote from: mongers on October 12, 2019, 03:22:49 PM
Quote from: grumbler on October 12, 2019, 12:40:19 PM
I agree with BA.  I thought he'd be a do-nothing president, not an actively anti-American president.

This is an astonishing thing to say and yet the evidence points that way; he's doing a 'fine' job of weakening America's standing in the world and wrecking the international system.

Latest news is the SDF/YPG are considering turning to Assad and Russia for aid/protection.   :hmm:

Deal has apparently been done, Syrian forces reported heading north towards the Turkish border and major towns like Kobani.

Nice work Trumpinov.  :ph34r:
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HisMajestyBOB

#183
October 13, 2019, 06:31:52 PM
Weird how often Trump's foreign policy decisions hurt the US and benefit Russia.
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mongers

#184
October 13, 2019, 07:11:42 PM
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on October 13, 2019, 06:31:52 PM
Weird how often Trump's foreign policy decisions hurt the US and benefit Russia.

Yeah it's totally inexplicable.  :hmm:
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The Minsky Moment

#185
October 14, 2019, 11:34:59 AM
The one rule of Trump's foreign "policy" is that it all makes sense if you make the assumption he is a Russian plant.
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Habbaku

#186
October 14, 2019, 12:47:09 PM
I just make the assumption that he's making money somewhere along the way due to any action he takes. That seems to be holding true.
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Syt

#187
October 14, 2019, 03:46:34 PM
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Habbaku

#188
October 14, 2019, 03:50:43 PM
The whiplash is real.
The medievals were only too right in taking nolo episcopari as the best reason a man could give to others for making him a bishop. Give me a king whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways, or race-horses; and who has the power to sack his Vizier (or whatever you care to call him) if he does not like the cut of his trousers.

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Syt

#189
October 14, 2019, 03:51:09 PM
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1183822488192671745
QuoteDonald J. Trump
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After defeating 100% of the ISIS Caliphate, I largely moved our troops out of Syria. Let Syria and Assad protect the Kurds and fight Turkey for their own land. I said to my Generals, why should we be fighting for Syria and Assad to protect the land of our enemy? Anyone who wants to assist Syria in protecting the Kurds is good with me, whether it is Russia, China, or Napoleon Bonaparte. I hope they all do great, we are 7,000 miles away!
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Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

The Brain

#190
October 14, 2019, 03:53:15 PM
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Admiral Yi

#191
October 14, 2019, 03:59:49 PM
Donald to Senate Republicans: I'll do anything you say as long as you don't impeach me.

Hookers and blow for everyone at the Kurds' DC lobbying firm tonight.

Razgovory

#192
October 14, 2019, 04:16:02 PM
Phrasing is key with Trump.  Saying he betrayed someone isn't likely to get much response beside a grin.  However, if you phrase it like "Donald Trump orders retreat in face of Islamist army", you might actually get him to do something.

I hope Erdogan does something stupid like close Trump Towers Instanbul.
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Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

The Minsky Moment

#193
October 14, 2019, 05:47:39 PM
So we betrayed the Kurds and still ended up on worse terms with the Turks.  We strengthened ISIS, made the US look weak and unreliable, and generally pissed off the entire world.
What a brilliant move by Mr. Four Dimensional Chess Stable Genius.

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mongers

#194
October 14, 2019, 05:53:36 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on October 14, 2019, 05:47:39 PM
So we betrayed the Kurds and still ended up on worse terms with the Turks.  We strengthened ISIS, made the US look weak and unreliable, and generally pissed off the entire world.
What a brilliant move by Mr. Four Dimensional Chess Stable Genius.

It is if the sole object it to remain ever the centre of attention.
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