The Impeachment of President Donald J Trump

[Legbiter]

Well one option I've heard thrown around is that the House might not immediately send it to the Senate - that Pelosi might sit on it.  This would be a means of leverage to try and ensure fair terms of a trial in the Senate.

This is turning into very expensive psychotherapy for the Democrats.

[crazy canuck]

One thing that is remarkable is that it is not just a few members of congress repeating the Fox News/White House talking points.  It every single Republican member of congress. 

[Tamas]

One thing that is remarkable is that it is not just a few members of congress repeating the Fox News/White House talking points.  It every single Republican member of congress.

What else are they supposed to do? Go back working mundane office jobs in the private sector?

[crazy canuck]

One thing that is remarkable is that it is not just a few members of congress repeating the Fox News/White House talking points.  It every single Republican member of congress.

What else are they supposed to do? Go back working mundane office jobs in the private sector?

Just remarkable how quickly they have all become Trumpists.  I thought there may be some conservatives left.

[Admiral Yi]

Similar to the "did Trump write this" game that Joan proposed, I think it's fun to watch individual Republicans talking and try to guess their level of True Belief.

[Zoupa]

One thing that is remarkable is that it is not just a few members of congress repeating the Fox News/White House talking points.  It every single Republican member of congress.

What else are they supposed to do? Go back working mundane office jobs in the private sector?

Just remarkable how quickly they have all become Trumpists.  I thought there may be some conservatives left.

What's impressive to me is how little they care that some of their talking points were concocted by Russian intelligence. They know it's bullshit, they know it came from Russia, and they keep parroting anyways. It's incredible.

[The Brain]

What do you expect? They're Republicans. Anyone who is a Republican in 2019 is scum. GHWB was a looong time ago.

[Admiral Yi]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cl1UKE0cY4

Putin gives the final word.

[Admiral Yi]

Well one option I've heard thrown around is that the House might not immediately send it to the Senate - that Pelosi might sit on it.  This would be a means of leverage to try and ensure fair terms of a trial in the Senate.

I was wondering how Pelosi could hold up Senate action after the House had voted out impeachment, but I've since learned that she still has to name the impeachment managers. 

[Sheilbh]

One thing that is remarkable is that it is not just a few members of congress repeating the Fox News/White House talking points.  It every single Republican member of congress.

What else are they supposed to do? Go back working mundane office jobs in the private sector?

I expected more to go down the "this is unacceptable conduct, of course, and I am deeply, deeply concerned. But it isn't impeachable and that's not what the country needs right now" route.

As it turns out they've all gone down the crazy Ukraine interfering in our elections conspiracy theory route.

[Razgovory]

So apparently Putin told Trump that it was Ukraine that interfered in the election and Trump said he believes Putin.  Is anyone on the Republican side pointing out that none of that makes any Goddamn sense?  The Democrats had Ukraine hack their server to sabotage their own chance at winning the election so they could later impeach Donald Trump?

[Richard Hakluyt]

One breach in the partisan wall :

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/dec/19/trump-evangelical-christian-magazine-impeachment

[Admiral Yi]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioCDIiaaifE

My impression is that Christianity Today is a magazine of the (rapidly shrinking) moderate/hippie wing of Protestantism.  This is based on the fact that my father (definitely hippie wing) subscribes, and that the editor in chief in this CNN interview describes himself as centrist.  So not going to move the dial.

This clip is worth checking out for Trump's twitterspazz.  Comes at 2:13 of the clip.

[jimmy olsen]

One thing that is remarkable is that it is not just a few members of congress repeating the Fox News/White House talking points.  It every single Republican member of congress.

What else are they supposed to do? Go back working mundane office jobs in the private sector?

I expected more to go down the "this is unacceptable conduct, of course, and I am deeply, deeply concerned. But it isn't impeachable and that's not what the country needs right now" route.

As it turns out they've all gone down the crazy Ukraine interfering in our elections conspiracy theory route.

That's what they wanted to do, but Trump pitched a fit because everything he does is perfect, and anyone saying otherwise is a traitor.

[jimmy olsen]

Docs linked inside
https://twitter.com/ChrisMurphyCT/status/1208418143879794689

🚨This is breaking news and it's important. New documents show:

1. Ukraine aid was held just hours after the Trump/Zelensky "do us a favor" call

2. Internal notes show Trump's direct involvement

3. Staff knew it was wrong, kept it secret