About those peaceful antifa protests...

[dps]

It sounded like he was stating some sort of law. 

Sounded more to me like he was talking out his ass.

[viper37]

It sounded like he was stating some sort of law. 

Sounded more to me like he was talking out his ass.

it is known leftist protests are all people holding hands and singing let's give peace a chance

Violence from the left is as mythical as dragons.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFamvR9CpYw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVU4lt5xk1A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41YC0ASnfv4

[derspiess]

Dang, even Nancy called out antifa

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/08/30/pelosi-condemns-violent-actions-of-antifa-protesters/

"Our democracy has no room for inciting violence or endangering the public, no matter the ideology of those who commit such acts," Pelosi said in a statement released late Tuesday. "The violent actions of people calling themselves antifa in Berkeley this weekend deserve unequivocal condemnation, and the perpetrators should be arrested and prosecuted."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/08/28/black-clad-antifa-attack-right-wing-demonstrators-in-berkeley/?tid=a_inl&utm_term=.df228cc3191d

[derspiess]

More negative press

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/18/us/unmasking-antifa-anti-fascists-hard-left/index.html

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/8/29/16216346/antifa-violence

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/08/antifa-beats-up-trump-supporters-fuels-right-wingers.html

http://time.com/4919011/donald-trump-alt-left-antifa/

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/page/ct-perspec-page-antifa-trump-0830-story.html

[Jacob]

Why wouldn't she? What sort of connection do you think exist between antifa and Nancy? What mainstream politicians have you heard endorse anti-fascist direct action?

[Jacob]

Of course there'll be bad press. There's a big market for finger wagging at anti-fascist action.

In other news, racists with links to the Stormfront website are responsible for roughly 100 murders in the last five years: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/aug/29/stormfront-neo-nazi-hate-site-murder-internet-pulled-offline-web-com-civil-rights-action

[derspiess]

Why wouldn't she? What sort of connection do you think exist between antifa and Nancy? What mainstream politicians have you heard endorse anti-fascist direct action?

Anyway, Dems had been a bit silent on the alt-left/antifa types.  Glad to see Nan-Nan speaking up. 

[derspiess]

Of course there'll be bad press. There's a big market for finger wagging at anti-fascist action.

In other news, racists with links to the Stormfront website are responsible for roughly 100 murders in the last five years: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/aug/29/stormfront-neo-nazi-hate-site-murder-internet-pulled-offline-web-com-civil-rights-action

Everyone here agrees Stormfront and Nazis are terrible.  Duh.

[Jacob]

Anyway, Dems had been a bit silent on the alt-left/antifa types.  Glad to see Nan-Nan speaking up.

Glad your worry could be put to rest, then

[Valmy]

it is known leftist protests are all people holding hands and singing let's give peace a chance

I don't get this strawman. There have been violent leftist movements for centuries.

[Valmy]

Everyone here agrees Stormfront and Nazis are terrible.  Duh.

Yet you seem far more obsessed with us constantly having to say we don't like vigilante violence. Because Languish is well known to go out in the streets and beat the shit out of people I guess.

[viper37]

Of course there'll be bad press. There's a big market for finger wagging at anti-fascist action.

In other news, racists with links to the Stormfront website are responsible for roughly 100 murders in the last five years: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/aug/29/stormfront-neo-nazi-hate-site-murder-internet-pulled-offline-web-com-civil-rights-action

Of course there'll be bad press. There's a big market for finger wagging at anti-fascist action.

In other news, racists with links to the Stormfront website are responsible for roughly 100 murders in the last five years: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/aug/29/stormfront-neo-nazi-hate-site-murder-internet-pulled-offline-web-com-civil-rights-action

100 murders worldwide in 5 years?  I would have expected more.

Donald Trump aside, how many mainstream* politicians have condoned/praised, excused or minimized such acts in the US&Canada?  On the top of my head, I can find a lot of politicians on tv expressing sympathy for vandals, saying it was somehow justified.  Politicians from the PQ (Jean-Pierre Charbonneau, more than once), politicians from Québec Solidaire (Gabriel Nadeau Dubois who said "resistance was justified" after innocent people got attacked in Quebec city, Manon Massé who said the same, Amir Khadir who said as much during the students protests and even participated in such protests and got arrested for it), people from the NDP who always refused to condemn violent actions from the left, threats from their union supporters, etc.

On the right?  I can't remember any public comments as such, defending acts of violence committed with a political intent.  I can't remember anyone trying to minimize the terrorist attack on a Quebec city mosque.  I can't remember the leader of right wing protest group excusing any acts of violence committed in its name.

Sbr said he'd pay someone who killed a suspected nazi.  You never hide that you would use and support violence against people you suspect of threatening democracy. You posted a text from an antifa militant who stopped short of calling that poor victim a martyr and he was almost rejoiced by it.  That was really disgusting and pretty revealing of the mentality that goes on in your ranks: the end justifies the means.

Oex turns a blind eye to the people attacked by such groups tagging with the line of Québec Solidaire that they were facists. It's pretty convenient when everyone who does not share your particular world view is the ennemy.  Kinda justifies pretty much everything.

When it's leftist or islamic terrorism though, there's always someone finding a good excuse on the left, trying to portray the agressor as the real victims.  That is a disgusting behavior that only serves to encourage further acts of protests.

I may not have liked all of Obama's policies, certainly disagreed with many of Bush policies, but none of them would have stomped so low as to reach the Donald Trumpesque level of your crowd.


*By mainstream I mean a political party with at least one elected member in the House of Commons, US Congress, Provincial and US State parliament or any independant elected to such an institution while he was in service or after his retirement from politics so long as he continues to represent the party in public.

[Valmy]

100 murders worldwide in 5 years?  I would have expected more.

Sorry to disappoint you? I mean it is just one website for a very fringe ideology. How many murders did you expect?

[Barrister]

Everyone here agrees Stormfront and Nazis are terrible.  Duh.

Yet you seem far more obsessed with us constantly having to say we don't like vigilante violence. Because Languish is well known to go out in the streets and beat the shit out of people I guess.

Who told you?  What have you heard?

[HVC]

Everyone here agrees Stormfront and Nazis are terrible.  Duh.

Yet you seem far more obsessed with us constantly having to say we don't like vigilante violence. Because Languish is well known to go out in the streets and beat the shit out of people I guess.

to be fair we do have a history of threatening to tackle people