UK Parliamentary General Election 8th June 2017

[garbon]

Then you've Lib Dems who stand for what exactly? Just differentiating themselves from other parties?

I don't get it. They have been around for decades, and are the heirs of a party that was founded in 1859, and have been in government before. They are liberal and pro-Europe. That seems pretty distinct to me. What do you need? A little orange book? The Lib-Dem Manifesto? How is what they stand for some kind of secret mystery?

Because they stood for basically nothing when they joined the Conservatives in the coalition government? They mainly seem to be, we're not the evil conservatives, not unhelpful Labour. Oh and they have a leader who seems to have an issue with gays.

I don't think my point of view is controversial. It was the voting British public who slaughtered them in the last general election.

[Tamas]

I am gravely disappointed by the cowardice of the LibDems.

Another referendum? Srsly?!!! Pledge to make a soft Brexit. Pledge to not leave the EU altogether. But not pledge to something that everyone knows is retarded, leads to more chaos, and ultimately leads to the same thing as if it never happened.

[Richard Hakluyt]

Labour is experiencing something of a revival in the polls :

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-39856354


The election could yet provide some surprises.

[Valmy]

Labour is experiencing something of a revival in the polls :

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-39856354


The election could yet provide some surprises.

It looks like the UKIP voters are returning to Labour.

[mongers]

Labour is experiencing something of a revival in the polls :

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-39856354


The election could yet provide some surprises.

It looks like the UKIP voters are returning to Labour.

[Tamas]

Xenophobic objective achieved, lets switch back to where there are more handouts!

[Barrister]

So what happens to Corbyn's leadership is Labour still loses handily, but manages to slightly improve in the polls from where they started the campaign at?

[Tamas]

So what happens to Corbyn's leadership is Labour still loses handily, but manages to slightly improve in the polls from where they started the campaign at?

In any scenario, Corbyn remains Labour leader.

[Josquius]

It is very nice to see Labour's manifesto actually having the guts to take logical actions like renationalising the railways and water.
I suspect labour's poll upswing is working people actually seeing what socialism means rather than just blindly going "I don't like socialism".

So what happens to Corbyn's leadership is Labour still loses handily, but manages to slightly improve in the polls from where they started the campaign at?

In any scenario, Corbyn remains Labour leader.

Which would probably mean SDP Mark 2.

[Gups]

So what happens to Corbyn's leadership is Labour still loses handily, but manages to slightly improve in the polls from where they started the campaign at?

The benchmark is probably 30% which is about what Labour have got in the last two elections. Obviously that will be a much worse result than the last two elections because UKIP's vote has imploded, but that will be ignored.

Under 28% would be Labour's worst result since 1935. He'd struggle to stay in those circumstances IMO, but who knows.

[Richard Hakluyt]

The interesting trend is the collapse of the minor parties. It looks like the big two will get 80% of the vote or so for the first time in ages. This has two consequences in my opinion; firstly, given the nature of first past the post elections, it enhances the legitimacy of the winning party; secondly, Labour will keep their strongholds and will be well placed to replace the Tories once they have gone through a process of modernisation.

[Tamas]

My blood boils every time I hear or read "bedroom tax"

IT IS NOT A TAX! It is a reduced welfare payment. Which MIGHT be a bad idea in itself but do not call it a TAX. It is insulting to people who actually pay taxes, and is a too obvious reveal of how supposed helps for those in need have become to be viewed as entitlements.

[Admiral Yi]

The benchmark is probably 30% which is about what Labour have got in the last two elections. Obviously that will be a much worse result than the last two elections because UKIP's vote has imploded, but that will be ignored.

Under 28% would be Labour's worst result since 1935. He'd struggle to stay in those circumstances IMO, but who knows.

My impression is the folks who vote for Corbyn in leadership elections aren't all that interested in winning national elections.

[Gups]

The benchmark is probably 30% which is about what Labour have got in the last two elections. Obviously that will be a much worse result than the last two elections because UKIP's vote has imploded, but that will be ignored.

Under 28% would be Labour's worst result since 1935. He'd struggle to stay in those circumstances IMO, but who knows.

My impression is the folks who vote for Corbyn in leadership elections aren't all that interested in winning national elections.

Some of them. But not most, I don't think. I know quite a few and they believe or used to believe that he could win. Some are now against him, some blame the media and the Blairites. It's all a rich tapestry, like vomit on a Turkish carpet. 

[Josquius]

Cool odd thing I just learned.
Bernie Sanders' brother is the green party candidate in East Oxford