UK Parliamentary General Election 8th June 2017

Started by mongers, April 19, 2017, 08:44:06 PM

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Agelastus

Been to vote. Dropped off my mother's postal vote as well.

Very, very bored looking polling station personnel, even by normal standards; I'm pretty certain I was the only voter in the building, and I didn't see anyone else leaving as I went in, or coming as I went out.

I wasn't even certain there was an observer there from any of the parties; there were two people standing and chatting outside, but no visible rosettes.

I think the General Election in a month may have killed the turnout for the locals (which would have been low anyway); that's the first time at any election, local or otherwise, that I can recall being the only voter in sight.
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mongers

Quote from: Agelastus on May 04, 2017, 09:47:50 AM
Been to vote. Dropped off my mother's postal vote as well.

Very, very bored looking polling station personnel, even by normal standards; I'm pretty certain I was the only voter in the building, and I didn't see anyone else leaving as I went in, or coming as I went out.

I wasn't even certain there was an observer there from any of the parties; there were two people standing and chatting outside, but no visible rosettes.

I think the General Election in a month may have killed the turnout for the locals (which would have been low anyway); that's the first time at any election, local or otherwise, that I can recall being the only voter in sight.

Trip to vote made easier by having to go to the library and a shop both within 50 yards of polling station; plenty of voters there.

I hadn't considered who to vote for, until I got into the booth, just four choices,voted Green party.
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mongers

Quote from: Tamas on May 04, 2017, 07:40:34 AM
It is only about trust in the system. It makes life more convenient, but I guess if you come from Eastern Europe you develop different reflexes. I am not sure they are the incorrect reflexes out of the two, but different for sure.

I think it's the other way around, you turn up and are asked to declare you name, which you do and are then allowed to vote.

In a way you've given your word that you are who you say you are,that you are an honourable person, a quality that's been ebbing out of our political system and elections during the last two or three decades.
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I think Tamas is talking about the possiblity of coordinated fraud by election officials, whereas y'all are responding about fraud by voters.

I think.

Richard Hakluyt

British election officials committing fraud  :bowler: ?

The thought has never crossed my mind.

Tamas

Quote from: mongers on May 04, 2017, 11:23:05 AM
Quote from: Tamas on May 04, 2017, 07:40:34 AM
It is only about trust in the system. It makes life more convenient, but I guess if you come from Eastern Europe you develop different reflexes. I am not sure they are the incorrect reflexes out of the two, but different for sure.

I think it's the other way around, you turn up and are asked to declare you name, which you do and are then allowed to vote.

In a way you've given your word that you are who you say you are,that you are an honourable person, a quality that's been ebbing out of our political system and elections during the last two or three decades.

Well my main problem is with the election officials and those with access to the paperwork and the urn meddling, not people pretending they are somebody else.

But even for that you can't rely on honour! Come on!  :D

I mean, in my little town in Hungary where everyone knew everyone else, they did not require me (as it would be the law) to show my ID card, but I still needed to sign (you need to do both).

Tamas

Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on May 04, 2017, 11:31:53 AM
British election officials committing fraud  :bowler: ?

The thought has never crossed my mind.

Heck, with suck lax regulations it could be just a party observer.

alfred russel

Quote from: garbon on May 04, 2017, 06:40:40 AM
I feel like Tamas you are sliding into the Republican trap of the notion that there must be voter fraud going on. Remember, in US, we only make a person sign, they don't have to show ID.

I have to show ID.
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Richard Hakluyt

Quote from: mongers on May 04, 2017, 11:19:02 AM
Quote from: Agelastus on May 04, 2017, 09:47:50 AM
Been to vote. Dropped off my mother's postal vote as well.

Very, very bored looking polling station personnel, even by normal standards; I'm pretty certain I was the only voter in the building, and I didn't see anyone else leaving as I went in, or coming as I went out.

I wasn't even certain there was an observer there from any of the parties; there were two people standing and chatting outside, but no visible rosettes.

I think the General Election in a month may have killed the turnout for the locals (which would have been low anyway); that's the first time at any election, local or otherwise, that I can recall being the only voter in sight.

Trip to vote made easier by having to go to the library and a shop both within 50 yards of polling station; plenty of voters there.

I hadn't considered who to vote for, until I got into the booth, just four choices,voted Green party.

We only had four choices as well; Tories, Labour, UKIP or some commie outfit; voted Labour as I sometimes do in local elections.

Richard Hakluyt


Agelastus

Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on May 05, 2017, 01:27:47 AM
Looking good for the Tories :

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/ng-interactive/2017/may/04/local-and-mayoral-elections-2017-live-results-tracker

So far UKIP have failed to hold a single council seat  :P

Hardly surprising given the national polls; for all their efforts to become a normal party with policies in all areas the majority of their supporters very much saw them as a single issue vehicle.
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The Best is yet to be
The last of life for which the first was made."

Josquius

#146
Good for the Tories in that support for UKIP has died.
The lib dems have also done surprisingly disappointing.
Labour looks interesting though. Only narrowly lost the west of England mayoral election despite it being a traditionally heavily tory area.

Given the low turnout all round I'm not sure we can take much from this though. I bet a lot of people didn't even  know there were elections going on due to the talk of next month.
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Tamas

Quote from: Tyr on May 05, 2017, 06:49:51 AM
Good for the Tories in that support for UKIP has died.
The lib dems have also done surprisingly disappointing.
Labour looks interesting though. Only narrowly lost the west of England mayoral election despite it being a traditionally heavily tory area

Looks like most everyone thinks Labour is uncapable for, much of anything really. Unfortunately the response seems to be to go all in on the Tories instead of elevating the LibDems as the main opposition party.


garbon

Quote from: Tamas on May 05, 2017, 06:52:07 AM
Quote from: Tyr on May 05, 2017, 06:49:51 AM
Good for the Tories in that support for UKIP has died.
The lib dems have also done surprisingly disappointing.
Labour looks interesting though. Only narrowly lost the west of England mayoral election despite it being a traditionally heavily tory area

Looks like most everyone thinks Labour is uncapable for, much of anything really. Unfortunately the response seems to be to go all in on the Tories instead of elevating the LibDems as the main opposition party.

Well the Lib Dems don't really seem to stand for much beyond saying we're the one party who might reverse Brexit!!111
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Quote from: The Larch on May 04, 2017, 05:17:56 AM
We don't sign here either, in fact the concept of having to sign a paper to demonstrate that I've voted sound quite strange to me. Here you show your ID, they look you up in their lists, cross you off (with a pen!  :lol: ) and it's done. There are also party representatives around to make sure there's no funny business going on.

In the systems I know, You need some kind of ID, plus a voter's card(in theory not in Portugal but it is handy to have it), and need to sign in France (only). If you forget one of those, they let you vote most of the times.
The French voter's card shows if you voted or not in previous elections. The most recent ones, that is. They sent a new one for the presidential elections for instance.